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card right welcome to episode three of

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the summer in the skies movie review

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edition today i'm sitting down once

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again with the hosts of the two dumb

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dads podcast nick westmeyer and chris

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moss we are going to discuss the number

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one box office hit right now star wars

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the last jedi what crazy twists did they

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pull on us this time who is the force

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most strong with who lived who died and

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what is up with those damn porks this

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franchises to ever grace my heart and my

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childhood so i hope you enjoy as much as

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i did making it if you have seen the

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movie enjoy our take on it and if not

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many many spoilers ahead you've been

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warned enjoy the show and may the force

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be with you all right guys welcome to

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another bonus movie review edition of

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somewhere in the skies today we are

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going to be talking about star wars the

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last jedi with me again i've got nick

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westermeyer chris moss gentlemen how are

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you doing hey you're doing great you've

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been good

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yes now i know nick you and i saw this

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opening night chris you went to a

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screening this morning at 9 00 a.m east

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awesome chris is like he's he's breaking

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free from his his uh he's trying to

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it's a rebirth for him right now off the

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cuff baby i love it love it there's no

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better way to do things like this for

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sure and i know just like the last time

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we did this guys we are very passionate

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how did star wars come into each of your

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lives i want to hear from you guys first

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what was your first memory of star wars

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the comic book answer but it kind of

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jedi a bunch like that's the movie that

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report card i got like one of the

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special released what

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him and just being like blown away by

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how great the story was as a whole

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that like george lucas indiana jones

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star wars type world so well my geekdom

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comic books it's just been something

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in terms of super dramatic storytelling

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tale essentially yeah yeah definitely

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my parents weren't nerdy people but for

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early scenes on hoth with luke until i

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lucas revisions yeah i know i know i did

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it i i still say han shots first but you

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me a bad person yes

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sorry nick yeah you're alone on that one

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buddy can i say like talking about this

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i realized that my first probably real

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introduction to star wars was the ewoks

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movies and like not realizing ewoks or

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par stores but just realizing like

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the ewoks like i just remember i had a

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vfhs of ewoks and they were awesome

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production you know what that that's a

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of you return of the jedi was your first

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sort of experience and or the ewoks and

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whenever you bring up star wars to

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people they always say oh the little

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bears and it's like yeah that's kind of

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the iconic um i would say of the three

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the most iconic movie because probably

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it was the last you know a lot of the

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most famous stuff came from that one um

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i totally get it uh that makes perfect

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sense um what i think is also

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interesting is you know seeing

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jedi last and then going back and

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watching the others this franchise this

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this story i guess that george lucas had

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what's really interesting is that he

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drops you in to the world like mid

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battle every at least with the first

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called episodes when you watch these so

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you don't have to have known what

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one especially dropping into new hope

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how much you're just you're as a as a

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moviegoer as a as an audience you're

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just registered to be like oh yeah okay

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great like this is what's going on and

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that with last jedi two in a sense which

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this is where we're at this is what's

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going on and yeah and i guess we'll

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really get his blood shed he'd be like

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okay so shit's happened but this is what

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this is where i'm at right now this is

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the story that's going on and i'm gonna

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get expedition about the past but in

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some ways it doesn't matter yeah

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um so i actually have a question for you

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all uh you on this topic of kind of just

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being able to jump into the movies being

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episodic their nature and all how many

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of you when did you actually start

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understanding the star wars scroll in

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terms of like the story they were

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telling so when i was a kid i i read the

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scroll i remember knowing the scroll and

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it was this iconic thing that took place

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little boring thing that happened before

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the awesome stuff came on

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stories become once you're actually

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i wanted that first like you know when

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they the scroll disappears and they

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always drop down to either a planet a

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starship something like that right i

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just wanted i wanted to see the action

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um so yeah i think it wasn't until

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probably

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much later when i got those blu-rays

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that i actually paid attention and i was

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like whoa this is way more intricate

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than i thought of like you know

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especially those

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the prequels

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those scrolls there's a little part of

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you that just sat there and went wait

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this is all about trade politics what so

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yeah i think for me i i never really

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paid attention to him and i think that's

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a good

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they're telling even you know george

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lucas is clearly not the best writer but

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even without those scrolls like you

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totally got the entire

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feeling and story i think yeah i think i

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probably hooked into them when the

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prequels came out because that's when i

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got past the wanting to just

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get to the action actually have a better

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understanding about what the stories

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were

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and i think i was still young enough as

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a moviegoer that i still thought the

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prequels were good does that make sense

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that's just they have [\h__\h] they have

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they have their merit and they have

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their place and i still really enjoy

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aspects of them like i'll go back and

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rewatch them and have fun but like but

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now as i'm older i'm like

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oh [\h__\h]

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i mean look getting to see yoda jump

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around and do stuff was was really cool

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i mean that was one of those things that

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as a kid you always wanted to see and

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then they did it and

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we can debate whether or not it was

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worthwhile but they did it and that was

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cool absolutely thank you for bringing

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that up because i'm going to bring that

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up later on when we deal with uh one

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master skywalker yeah before we go any

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further guys i do have to share my first

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memory so yeah please i switched to

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public school when i was in middle

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school from i was i was going to

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catholic school got kicked out long

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story so when i switched over to public

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school i didn't have many friends uh so

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i had that obligatory moment of

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like being in the lunchroom the first

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day and not knowing where to sit and i

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remember distinctly there were these

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three dudes uh i guess boys at that time

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and they told me i could sit with them

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and um they were playing this card game

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and i thought it was like magic the

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gathering i thought that's what it was

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but when i sat down

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i i saw that it was actually star wars

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themed and at that time i'd never seen

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star wars i had never heard of it and

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this dude he had the trilogy on vhs that

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original trilogy we're talking about and

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he let me bring him home and i watched

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him straight through in one sitting i

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was absolutely hooked and uh i became

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obsessed after that besides ufos this is

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by far one of the biggest things and

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closest things to my heart and uh i even

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wrote a fanfiction novel i'm not kidding

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oh that's amazing oh can i please read

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that i will give i will give anything

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to get my hand you need to make that uh

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something for for your patreon members

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yeah so here's the thing about that guys

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as much as i would love to so in my

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novel i created a jedi named creased

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collusion i have no idea why that was

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his name he was uh hunting the bounty

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hunter who killed his parents which

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essentially became boba fett and uh

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what happened was when i was going to

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turn it into my english teacher at the

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time a bully in school stole the only

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copy i had because this was before the

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word processor i typed this thing out on

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an electric typewriter

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oh my god

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it was he took it he ripped it up and he

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threw it out and it was the worst moment

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of my middle school life he apologized

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many many years later he found me on

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facebook and he said dude there is no

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like i don't know what the hell was

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wrong he was a kid you know right sure

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he apologized and he's like i can't

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believe i would do something like that

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but you know the cut was deep at that

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point so we may never know the

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conclusion to what happened to creche

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collusion unfortunately

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but uh yeah that was my first memory was

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the card game of star wars introduced me

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to the movies and then

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i was hooked after that everything my

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entire apartment was filled with star

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wars to this day i still have a

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life-sized yoda cut out stored safely in

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my parents attic so yeah

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this is this franchise has just meant

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everything to me i am a die-hard fan not

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to the annoying point which we will get

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to but yeah the this this new trilogy

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just speaks volumes to me i love where

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they're going as we will get into

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so i guess getting into that here is the

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brief description of this movie which

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when we actually get into the plot isn't

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so brief but here we go

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rey develops her newly discovered

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abilities with the guidance of luke

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skywalker who is unsettled by the

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strength of her powers meanwhile the

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resistance prepares to do battle with

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the first order that's all that's all

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wikipedia gave us that's crazy

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you know that's really not that far off

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it's not when you really think about it

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yeah it's completely off

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let me see what's the line it's amazing

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how none of those things you said were

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true yes you think so i do i i mean i i

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think it's hard to say that uh ray

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developed her her abilities with the

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guidance of luke skywalker um i had two

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lessons dude she had two lessons so so

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presumably eventually she's getting the

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third oh by the way we're spoiling this

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right oh god oh yeah i am so sorry

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ladies and gentlemen anyone listening

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from here on out spoilers galore you've

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been warned so i mean

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like okay presumably we're gonna get

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that third lesson somewhere somehow he's

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going to do the spirit thing but

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um

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oh yeah okay

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obviously okay no i don't but we'll get

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to that i don't

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one of my big beefs oh no because they

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already did the spirit thing they

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already did the spirit thing

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there's a really specific line that

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makes me think that he isn't going to be

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back we'll we'll get to that let's um

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yeah

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so there are some extremely surprising

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moments in this movie so first of all

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okay

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so far this movie has grossed almost 500

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million worldwide

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amazing secondly we have the writer and

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director

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is it rhianne or ryan i i don't know i

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thought it was rain rain like like like

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the dude like the dude from um

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pronunciation i've written it directed

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by ryan rhiann rayne johnson who did

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brick and looper so yes

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what the hell i i'm really interested in

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why they chose this guy to continue the

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star wars trilogy uh this is not the

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last we're going to be hearing from him

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he's going to be writing and directing

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more from what i've been doing well a

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whole new trilogy isn't it an entire new

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yes story three steps three set story

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yep and we'll get to that at the end as

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well for sure nick um so

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yeah we've got we've got this guy who's

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done some pretty low i would say low

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budget sort of indie films looper was a

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little bit more mainstream obviously

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but uh wow to put this into his hands

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was very interesting um

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so right at the beginning we have this

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moment where uh general hux our our our

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uh redheaded friend and poe dameron this

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this this movie starts right after

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force awakens like the next scene which

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is really interesting this seems to be a

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running theme with all the new movies um

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he's starting them right after so they

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have this banter which was really

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comedic you know this uh sorry i can't

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hear you uh can you please hold sorry

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sorry um

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really set the tone i think for what we

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were going to see throughout the rest of

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this movie there were some extremely

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interesting choices that he made in

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telling this story and things that i

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think a lot of die-hard star wars fans

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were either

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okay with or

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very against i can well it's funny i saw

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a great quote that said if you dig the

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first five to ten minutes of that film

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basically that conversation right

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between hux and poe you will like the

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rest of the movie if you get into that

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first moment you're like

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oh [\h__\h] this yeah then you're probably

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not gonna dig what's gonna come later on

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because it is like you said it sets the

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tone for damn your everything that

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happens i mean the first moment with

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luke and ray is in that same kind of

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vein right yeah

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yeah nick can you describe that scene

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yeah so you know you have this you have

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this banter of you know poe and hawks

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and it splits to that moment like this

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iconic moment that we've been waiting

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two years to see that we saw the end of

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force awakens right yeah yeah so we've

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been waiting we've been waiting two

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years to see what's gonna happen when

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ray hands luke the lightsaber and like

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in a beat he like touches it looks at it

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and [\h__\h] flips it over his shoulder

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and walks away yeah and um i just

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remember being like

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what i mean it was such a moment of like

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okay

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i both

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this is not gonna be what i thought it

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was gonna be yeah um and i kind of so

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for me as a viewer i was like well it

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looks like i'm gonna go along with this

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ride and

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and i'm either gonna i'm either gonna

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love it or i'm not and so i kind of went

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with like i'm gonna go with it and and

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that helped that first moment of of

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huxon poe and luke and ray tells you

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everything you need to know of what this

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movie is gonna be i was just gonna say

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it's basically gonna take everything you

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thought you like knew tonally for these

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movies and sort of flip it on its end we

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thought this was going to be an

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extremely dark film everyone was saying

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it's the the next empire strikes back

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which is an extremely depressing movie

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and here we are like two scenes into

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this new one and he's just like quips

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left and right yeah it's a very

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different feel for a star wars film and

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i don't think it's necessarily a bad

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thing i think um it's just the way the

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times have taken us

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i think you can argue that part of the

545
00:20:37,350 --> 00:20:34,720
problem with the the prequels was that

546
00:20:40,830 --> 00:20:37,360
they didn't update themselves they they

547
00:20:43,669 --> 00:20:40,840
tried to stick too much to the old uh

548
00:20:47,350 --> 00:20:43,679
1970s 1980s

549
00:20:50,390 --> 00:20:47,360
style of storytelling but using modern

550
00:20:51,270 --> 00:20:50,400
somewhat modern i guess technology yeah

551
00:20:53,270 --> 00:20:51,280
um

552
00:20:55,029 --> 00:20:53,280
and this feels pretty decided

553
00:20:57,750 --> 00:20:55,039
at the time no absolutely i mean it

554
00:21:00,390 --> 00:20:57,760
doesn't hold up because yeah whatever uh

555
00:21:02,470 --> 00:21:00,400
computer graphics just don't do that but

556
00:21:04,710 --> 00:21:02,480
these this film at least definitely

557
00:21:06,310 --> 00:21:04,720
tried to update itself and i think it

558
00:21:08,310 --> 00:21:06,320
did it in a charming way which

559
00:21:11,029 --> 00:21:08,320
maintained a lot of the

560
00:21:12,390 --> 00:21:11,039
elements of the early films while also

561
00:21:14,470 --> 00:21:12,400
acknowledging like look this is what

562
00:21:15,350 --> 00:21:14,480
humor is now this is what humor is in

563
00:21:16,870 --> 00:21:15,360
film

564
00:21:18,630 --> 00:21:16,880
you're either going to go with us or

565
00:21:20,710 --> 00:21:18,640
you're not and we think we're going to

566
00:21:22,470 --> 00:21:20,720
make the money either way

567
00:21:24,470 --> 00:21:22,480
good point chris in the word

568
00:21:26,390 --> 00:21:24,480
the key word i think is charming this

569
00:21:28,230 --> 00:21:26,400
movie charmed the hell out of me i don't

570
00:21:30,310 --> 00:21:28,240
know about you guys well no you know

571
00:21:31,830 --> 00:21:30,320
it's funny because i think so and i

572
00:21:33,430 --> 00:21:31,840
think we'll continue to get into it more

573
00:21:35,110 --> 00:21:33,440
and more i had a really good

574
00:21:36,950 --> 00:21:35,120
conversation with someone about it who

575
00:21:38,630 --> 00:21:36,960
did not like the film who was completely

576
00:21:40,230 --> 00:21:38,640
just like i can't i think my comment

577
00:21:42,630 --> 00:21:40,240
that my content then was you'd like

578
00:21:44,390 --> 00:21:42,640
justice league but you didn't like this

579
00:21:45,909 --> 00:21:44,400
um in terms of storytelling i think

580
00:21:47,830 --> 00:21:45,919
chris is right like it's totally updated

581
00:21:50,710 --> 00:21:47,840
and it's quippy and it's fun and it

582
00:21:52,870 --> 00:21:50,720
feels very disney dare i say like oh

583
00:21:54,149 --> 00:21:52,880
disney definitely got its hand on it um

584
00:21:56,710 --> 00:21:54,159
and i think that's why they might have

585
00:21:58,149 --> 00:21:56,720
picked uh the director to take the

586
00:22:00,789 --> 00:21:58,159
series in a different direction to not

587
00:22:03,029 --> 00:22:00,799
have it be empire but i do think that

588
00:22:05,029 --> 00:22:03,039
there are things that in my opinion

589
00:22:07,190 --> 00:22:05,039
again i i should just say i liked the

590
00:22:09,750 --> 00:22:07,200
film a lot but i think there were things

591
00:22:11,830 --> 00:22:09,760
and moments that were lost because of

592
00:22:14,149 --> 00:22:11,840
that and they were like well i would

593
00:22:16,070 --> 00:22:14,159
have to jump to like the very end to get

594
00:22:17,510 --> 00:22:16,080
to get to that moment so i don't know if

595
00:22:19,590 --> 00:22:17,520
we want to do that right now if you want

596
00:22:22,470 --> 00:22:19,600
me to like slowly move there but i think

597
00:22:24,710 --> 00:22:22,480
the use of of luke skywalker and i think

598
00:22:26,950 --> 00:22:24,720
that i feel that skywalker was wasted in

599
00:22:29,270 --> 00:22:26,960
a lot of ways it's my big beef with the

600
00:22:30,950 --> 00:22:29,280
film really is that personally i would

601
00:22:32,230 --> 00:22:30,960
disagree but okay

602
00:22:33,990 --> 00:22:32,240
so here's the thing i don't know which

603
00:22:35,750 --> 00:22:34,000
character you guys loved growing up

604
00:22:38,549 --> 00:22:35,760
watching star wars but mine has always

605
00:22:39,590 --> 00:22:38,559
been and still is luke skywalker okay

606
00:22:40,950 --> 00:22:39,600
beer like

607
00:22:43,110 --> 00:22:40,960
everything about them i don't know what

608
00:22:44,870 --> 00:22:43,120
i just i i'm always the like i like the

609
00:22:46,710 --> 00:22:44,880
really good guys if that makes sense

610
00:22:48,549 --> 00:22:46,720
yeah like you know i like the superman i

611
00:22:51,110 --> 00:22:48,559
like luke skywalker i like it's the

612
00:22:53,669 --> 00:22:51,120
reluctant hero this is the oldest story

613
00:22:54,390 --> 00:22:53,679
in storytelling history so i totally get

614
00:22:56,470 --> 00:22:54,400
that

615
00:22:58,310 --> 00:22:56,480
it's literally called the hero's journey

616
00:22:59,990 --> 00:22:58,320
yep yeah you know some people love han

617
00:23:01,669 --> 00:23:00,000
like han's their dude right i think if

618
00:23:03,350 --> 00:23:01,679
you like batman you like han does that

619
00:23:05,510 --> 00:23:03,360
make sense you're like you're the han

620
00:23:07,430 --> 00:23:05,520
solo guy he's kind of the rebel and like

621
00:23:09,430 --> 00:23:07,440
i just like i liked han and i thought

622
00:23:11,270 --> 00:23:09,440
han got a great send-off and a great

623
00:23:12,950 --> 00:23:11,280
movie in force awakens and my thing with

624
00:23:15,430 --> 00:23:12,960
luke was i was totally cool with him

625
00:23:17,190 --> 00:23:15,440
being like the reluctant hermit and

626
00:23:19,270 --> 00:23:17,200
the train of rey and the moving into

627
00:23:21,029 --> 00:23:19,280
exile but

628
00:23:23,270 --> 00:23:21,039
i literally have to skip to the end so

629
00:23:25,110 --> 00:23:23,280
my my stuff

630
00:23:27,110 --> 00:23:25,120
yeah my huge beef is i just feel like

631
00:23:30,149 --> 00:23:27,120
there was moments where especially when

632
00:23:32,149 --> 00:23:30,159
he uh faces kylo that it was just not

633
00:23:34,630 --> 00:23:32,159
like i was i was waiting for a payoff

634
00:23:36,710 --> 00:23:34,640
for him to have a heroic return and i

635
00:23:39,510 --> 00:23:36,720
got a little bit of it but then it was

636
00:23:41,190 --> 00:23:39,520
fast and masked and like lost some in

637
00:23:42,630 --> 00:23:41,200
the humor i just there was too much

638
00:23:44,149 --> 00:23:42,640
humor for me if that makes sense

639
00:23:46,549 --> 00:23:44,159
especially around skywalker where i was

640
00:23:47,909 --> 00:23:46,559
like okay okay like i get it i get it

641
00:23:51,270 --> 00:23:47,919
he's a hermit oh look at him look at him

642
00:23:54,470 --> 00:23:51,280
milk that bird for some milk that's okay

643
00:23:56,630 --> 00:23:54,480
great see i i have a i think i disagree

644
00:24:00,230 --> 00:23:56,640
with you because i see

645
00:24:02,630 --> 00:24:00,240
luke skywalker in this film as yoda and

646
00:24:05,350 --> 00:24:02,640
this is very much the path yoda took the

647
00:24:08,630 --> 00:24:05,360
reluctant uh master who

648
00:24:11,990 --> 00:24:08,640
who knew the possible um

649
00:24:14,310 --> 00:24:12,000
faults in his uh in his training and

650
00:24:16,149 --> 00:24:14,320
fights against doing it um i mean this

651
00:24:18,390 --> 00:24:16,159
is very much the same thing yoda does

652
00:24:20,149 --> 00:24:18,400
where which is arguably one of the

653
00:24:22,549 --> 00:24:20,159
problems you could say with the film is

654
00:24:25,190 --> 00:24:22,559
that in many ways this is just empire

655
00:24:28,070 --> 00:24:25,200
strikes back yes yes

656
00:24:31,430 --> 00:24:28,080
i i don't think that i am not one of the

657
00:24:34,230 --> 00:24:31,440
people who have prescribed to the

658
00:24:36,630 --> 00:24:34,240
the telling of the uh the empire strikes

659
00:24:38,549 --> 00:24:36,640
back remake i think this was an

660
00:24:42,070 --> 00:24:38,559
interesting uh

661
00:24:44,390 --> 00:24:42,080
take on both empire in return i felt

662
00:24:46,149 --> 00:24:44,400
like they did something that i i wasn't

663
00:24:49,510 --> 00:24:46,159
expecting i was expecting to make a

664
00:24:51,110 --> 00:24:49,520
literal uh remake of empire strikes back

665
00:24:53,830 --> 00:24:51,120
but instead they took both of those

666
00:24:56,470 --> 00:24:53,840
formulas and kind of perverted them and

667
00:24:58,950 --> 00:24:56,480
i thought that was terrific i i wasn't

668
00:25:00,710 --> 00:24:58,960
every time they did something i wasn't

669
00:25:02,630 --> 00:25:00,720
expecting it and i really appreciated

670
00:25:04,310 --> 00:25:02,640
that so that's interesting you bring up

671
00:25:06,630 --> 00:25:04,320
yoda and like chris i agree with you and

672
00:25:07,990 --> 00:25:06,640
that's that is what i thought he was

673
00:25:09,269 --> 00:25:08,000
going to be even from the moment of her

674
00:25:10,950 --> 00:25:09,279
giving the lightsaber i was like okay

675
00:25:11,990 --> 00:25:10,960
yoda moment i think we even talked about

676
00:25:13,110 --> 00:25:12,000
that but here's the thing and this is

677
00:25:14,870 --> 00:25:13,120
what i'm talking about like i feel like

678
00:25:16,549 --> 00:25:14,880
a lot of times this movie didn't have

679
00:25:18,549 --> 00:25:16,559
some of the payoffs that i wanted as a

680
00:25:20,470 --> 00:25:18,559
viewer and again i prefer this by saying

681
00:25:22,230 --> 00:25:20,480
i still love the [\h__\h] out of this movie

682
00:25:24,149 --> 00:25:22,240
and like wanted to see it again the next

683
00:25:26,230 --> 00:25:24,159
day and that's so great so one of the

684
00:25:28,390 --> 00:25:26,240
things i love about empire and while it

685
00:25:30,710 --> 00:25:28,400
may seem quick is like there's training

686
00:25:32,470 --> 00:25:30,720
there like there's some legit training

687
00:25:33,909 --> 00:25:32,480
and they do it they film it quickly

688
00:25:34,870 --> 00:25:33,919
again because i just rewatched all these

689
00:25:36,549 --> 00:25:34,880
movies

690
00:25:38,870 --> 00:25:36,559
but there's moments of training in this

691
00:25:41,110 --> 00:25:38,880
movie like his training of ray is like

692
00:25:43,269 --> 00:25:41,120
all right so feel the force feel less

693
00:25:45,430 --> 00:25:43,279
than one feel the force feel the force

694
00:25:48,789 --> 00:25:45,440
see that you didn't even ignore it okay

695
00:25:50,310 --> 00:25:48,799
second lesson third lesson meh and it

696
00:25:52,070 --> 00:25:50,320
just seemed too fast to me and it seemed

697
00:25:54,710 --> 00:25:52,080
like i kind of lost that that yoda

698
00:25:57,029 --> 00:25:54,720
moment training and again i'm okay with

699
00:25:58,070 --> 00:25:57,039
it and it worked i am i'm quote-unquote

700
00:25:59,909 --> 00:25:58,080
okay with it and it worked for me

701
00:26:02,230 --> 00:25:59,919
because i like the film as a whole but

702
00:26:03,830 --> 00:26:02,240
i could have gotten more like i could i

703
00:26:05,750 --> 00:26:03,840
would have more payoff like i feel like

704
00:26:07,830 --> 00:26:05,760
this film didn't pay me off all the time

705
00:26:08,789 --> 00:26:07,840
in the way that i as a viewer might have

706
00:26:11,110 --> 00:26:08,799
wanted

707
00:26:12,070 --> 00:26:11,120
no i i i get what you're saying nick i

708
00:26:16,390 --> 00:26:12,080
think

709
00:26:19,510 --> 00:26:16,400
between empire and this movie if we are

710
00:26:23,029 --> 00:26:19,520
to make any comparisons is the training

711
00:26:25,190 --> 00:26:23,039
aspect of both luke skywalker and ray uh

712
00:26:27,750 --> 00:26:25,200
respectively is that they're not done

713
00:26:31,669 --> 00:26:27,760
you know even even at the end of this

714
00:26:33,430 --> 00:26:31,679
one uh with rey's battle with kylo ren

715
00:26:36,070 --> 00:26:33,440
and the same with darth vader and luke

716
00:26:38,630 --> 00:26:36,080
skywalker is they're not done and there

717
00:26:40,630 --> 00:26:38,640
are strong ramifications to not being

718
00:26:42,630 --> 00:26:40,640
done with their training at the end of

719
00:26:43,430 --> 00:26:42,640
both of these movies i think

720
00:26:45,750 --> 00:26:43,440
right

721
00:26:48,549 --> 00:26:45,760
so i i i get what you're saying nick the

722
00:26:51,750 --> 00:26:48,559
payoff wasn't there this is not the the

723
00:26:54,230 --> 00:26:51,760
epitome the obi-wan the the full effect

724
00:26:56,310 --> 00:26:54,240
jedi uh i don't think we're there yet so

725
00:26:58,630 --> 00:26:56,320
if anything i think it's interesting

726
00:27:00,549 --> 00:26:58,640
that we still have a ways to go we still

727
00:27:02,390 --> 00:27:00,559
don't even know if rey is going to

728
00:27:04,870 --> 00:27:02,400
continue to stay on the light side of

729
00:27:06,789 --> 00:27:04,880
the force or not you know oh see i was

730
00:27:08,070 --> 00:27:06,799
pretty i thought i felt pretty pretty

731
00:27:09,590 --> 00:27:08,080
like

732
00:27:11,110 --> 00:27:09,600
about that by the end of that film i

733
00:27:13,590 --> 00:27:11,120
don't know because we see this

734
00:27:16,230 --> 00:27:13,600
blossoming relationship between kylo and

735
00:27:18,149 --> 00:27:16,240
rey um whether it's romantic or not

736
00:27:21,029 --> 00:27:18,159
there's a deep connection between those

737
00:27:23,750 --> 00:27:21,039
two uh a lot can argue that snoke did

738
00:27:25,990 --> 00:27:23,760
that the the villain the the emperor of

739
00:27:27,510 --> 00:27:26,000
this movie but i don't know man that

740
00:27:29,350 --> 00:27:27,520
they are the two sides like they're the

741
00:27:30,710 --> 00:27:29,360
only they're the last two right so you

742
00:27:31,990 --> 00:27:30,720
always have to have the sith and the

743
00:27:33,510 --> 00:27:32,000
jedi so there's going to be a very

744
00:27:34,470 --> 00:27:33,520
strong connection between those two

745
00:27:36,310 --> 00:27:34,480
forces

746
00:27:37,909 --> 00:27:36,320
which i think is why snoke and luke have

747
00:27:39,830 --> 00:27:37,919
such a strong connection for so long

748
00:27:41,590 --> 00:27:39,840
which we never get answered which i know

749
00:27:43,269 --> 00:27:41,600
pissed a ton of people off we were just

750
00:27:44,390 --> 00:27:43,279
like i actually didn't give a [\h__\h]

751
00:27:45,750 --> 00:27:44,400
because if you think about the original

752
00:27:48,230 --> 00:27:45,760
trilogy like you don't know who

753
00:27:49,350 --> 00:27:48,240
palpatine is it doesn't matter we never

754
00:27:50,710 --> 00:27:49,360
get off

755
00:27:52,070 --> 00:27:50,720
yeah you just you just meet him the

756
00:27:54,549 --> 00:27:52,080
reason we know who palpatine is is

757
00:27:56,470 --> 00:27:54,559
because they remade three more movies

758
00:27:58,070 --> 00:27:56,480
otherwise he's just the empire and his

759
00:27:59,750 --> 00:27:58,080
ass gets killed at the end of jedi i

760
00:28:01,269 --> 00:27:59,760
felt like snoke was the same thing it

761
00:28:03,669 --> 00:28:01,279
doesn't

762
00:28:05,990 --> 00:28:03,679
like you want to know i get that but

763
00:28:07,430 --> 00:28:06,000
ultimately that's not the important

764
00:28:09,510 --> 00:28:07,440
thing here's another thing i want to

765
00:28:11,830 --> 00:28:09,520
bring up we have this new writer

766
00:28:14,149 --> 00:28:11,840
director and he is feeling a lot like

767
00:28:16,070 --> 00:28:14,159
joss whedon to me in terms of like

768
00:28:17,909 --> 00:28:16,080
justice league where he's kind of giving

769
00:28:20,470 --> 00:28:17,919
the middle finger to some stuff that

770
00:28:21,990 --> 00:28:20,480
they tried to set up in force awakens

771
00:28:23,590 --> 00:28:22,000
which i thought was pretty interesting

772
00:28:25,350 --> 00:28:23,600
yeah you know you mean like everything

773
00:28:26,389 --> 00:28:25,360
they tried to set up in force awakens

774
00:28:27,510 --> 00:28:26,399
yeah like

775
00:28:28,310 --> 00:28:27,520
which is what a lot of people didn't

776
00:28:30,149 --> 00:28:28,320
like

777
00:28:32,149 --> 00:28:30,159
i waited two years for that i get it

778
00:28:34,389 --> 00:28:32,159
that's that's what you okay cool i

779
00:28:36,389 --> 00:28:34,399
completely get that i mean for example

780
00:28:38,630 --> 00:28:36,399
we've got you know we we've all been

781
00:28:40,870 --> 00:28:38,640
waiting to see where rey comes from like

782
00:28:43,430 --> 00:28:40,880
what lineage she comes from is she

783
00:28:46,789 --> 00:28:43,440
luke's daughter is she some like far off

784
00:28:49,909 --> 00:28:46,799
jedi in this we learned that possibly we

785
00:28:52,230 --> 00:28:49,919
don't know for sure she's nobody she oh

786
00:28:55,830 --> 00:28:52,240
i love it she's absolutely nobody and

787
00:28:58,870 --> 00:28:55,840
chris i agree i think it was a gorgeous

788
00:29:01,669 --> 00:28:58,880
moment of storytelling that it does not

789
00:29:04,310 --> 00:29:01,679
matter if you're a jedi or not jedi is a

790
00:29:05,830 --> 00:29:04,320
religion the force is something that

791
00:29:07,909 --> 00:29:05,840
everyone can have and i think that was

792
00:29:10,230 --> 00:29:07,919
the message of the movie luke preaches

793
00:29:12,789 --> 00:29:10,240
it yoda preaches it and even [\h__\h]

794
00:29:15,190 --> 00:29:12,799
kylo ren in saying that like you are a

795
00:29:17,110 --> 00:29:15,200
part of this you come from nothing come

796
00:29:18,470 --> 00:29:17,120
with me right in the last moments too

797
00:29:20,230 --> 00:29:18,480
where it's the kid

798
00:29:22,549 --> 00:29:20,240
i mean like the stable boy who has the

799
00:29:24,549 --> 00:29:22,559
force which is another beautiful last

800
00:29:26,149 --> 00:29:24,559
moment um this you know it's funny

801
00:29:28,149 --> 00:29:26,159
because i'm thinking about this in

802
00:29:30,149 --> 00:29:28,159
retrospect you realize that the director

803
00:29:31,510 --> 00:29:30,159
and writer he's setting this up in the

804
00:29:34,870 --> 00:29:31,520
very beginning that it doesn't matter

805
00:29:36,230 --> 00:29:34,880
because that one the line of some in one

806
00:29:38,070 --> 00:29:36,240
way or another letting the past be

807
00:29:39,909 --> 00:29:38,080
letting it die letting it go is

808
00:29:41,909 --> 00:29:39,919
constantly mentioned right like

809
00:29:45,269 --> 00:29:41,919
throughout the whole past does not

810
00:29:46,789 --> 00:29:45,279
matter at all and it is just reinforced

811
00:29:48,710 --> 00:29:46,799
through this whole movie and i was like

812
00:29:51,350 --> 00:29:48,720
and i also wonder if that's not just the

813
00:29:53,029 --> 00:29:51,360
director i kept being like it screamed

814
00:29:55,430 --> 00:29:53,039
of jj abrams to me because it screamed

815
00:29:56,230 --> 00:29:55,440
of spoilers lost where at the end of the

816
00:29:57,750 --> 00:29:56,240
day

817
00:29:59,750 --> 00:29:57,760
none of it mattered other than just the

818
00:30:01,190 --> 00:29:59,760
people in the moment that were involved

819
00:30:02,950 --> 00:30:01,200
and i felt like that was pretty much

820
00:30:05,669 --> 00:30:02,960
this movie it's like listen the past in

821
00:30:08,310 --> 00:30:05,679
the past is dying now even in terms of

822
00:30:10,470 --> 00:30:08,320
like your old characters from the last

823
00:30:12,149 --> 00:30:10,480
star wars like it's it's it's starting

824
00:30:13,830 --> 00:30:12,159
to not matter it's a new beginning it's

825
00:30:15,510 --> 00:30:13,840
a new rebellion it's a new resistance

826
00:30:18,630 --> 00:30:15,520
the resistance is gone essentially it's

827
00:30:21,269 --> 00:30:18,640
a new grand leader yeah sure and rey's

828
00:30:23,590 --> 00:30:21,279
just a nobody for lack of a better term

829
00:30:26,149 --> 00:30:23,600
right she comes from nowhere so her past

830
00:30:28,149 --> 00:30:26,159
doesn't matter well yeah and nick too

831
00:30:30,630 --> 00:30:28,159
like the point you bring up is really

832
00:30:33,909 --> 00:30:30,640
interesting because that's kind of what

833
00:30:35,990 --> 00:30:33,919
has made luke what he is now he's so

834
00:30:38,070 --> 00:30:36,000
you know stuck in the past of what

835
00:30:39,830 --> 00:30:38,080
happened with kylo ren

836
00:30:41,990 --> 00:30:39,840
you know him turning to the dark side

837
00:30:44,149 --> 00:30:42,000
killing off the entire jedi order that

838
00:30:46,070 --> 00:30:44,159
entire thing he believes was his own

839
00:30:48,470 --> 00:30:46,080
fault and that he has caused all this

840
00:30:51,029 --> 00:30:48,480
and that's made him go into exile and i

841
00:30:53,350 --> 00:30:51,039
think like you said this nobody this

842
00:30:55,350 --> 00:30:53,360
this ray comes to get him out of that

843
00:30:57,590 --> 00:30:55,360
and show him like look things are going

844
00:30:59,750 --> 00:30:57,600
on right now and we need your help which

845
00:31:02,070 --> 00:30:59,760
i think you know again luke learns

846
00:31:05,750 --> 00:31:02,080
another valuable lesson before his

847
00:31:07,350 --> 00:31:05,760
inevitable fate oh the that line of you

848
00:31:08,950 --> 00:31:07,360
know you learned the being of teacher

849
00:31:10,710 --> 00:31:08,960
your failures are as much a part of

850
00:31:13,269 --> 00:31:10,720
being a teacher as your success that was

851
00:31:16,389 --> 00:31:13,279
a cool moment loved it

852
00:31:18,789 --> 00:31:16,399
yeah yeah delivered by a unknown tiny

853
00:31:21,110 --> 00:31:18,799
green jedi that we have never seen

854
00:31:22,870 --> 00:31:21,120
before

855
00:31:25,510 --> 00:31:22,880
so i'm trying to think of more of these

856
00:31:27,350 --> 00:31:25,520
really surprising moments that we got

857
00:31:28,870 --> 00:31:27,360
throughout this what about not finding

858
00:31:30,070 --> 00:31:28,880
out finn's past i know that was

859
00:31:31,350 --> 00:31:30,080
something a lot of people got that like

860
00:31:33,669 --> 00:31:31,360
the one person who knows finn's

861
00:31:35,190 --> 00:31:33,679
background get get i mean we get it

862
00:31:37,830 --> 00:31:35,200
though right we get it in the first

863
00:31:41,590 --> 00:31:37,840
movie essentially we get that it's a

864
00:31:44,230 --> 00:31:41,600
person who's what sold to the uh was the

865
00:31:46,470 --> 00:31:44,240
first order as a child or something it's

866
00:31:48,230 --> 00:31:46,480
basically the same as child slave yeah

867
00:31:50,070 --> 00:31:48,240
yeah it's funny because like i don't

868
00:31:51,509 --> 00:31:50,080
care about it but i know the person i

869
00:31:52,950 --> 00:31:51,519
talked to did not like the movie that

870
00:31:55,350 --> 00:31:52,960
was one of his big things it's like he

871
00:31:57,269 --> 00:31:55,360
wanted to know finn's past yeah you have

872
00:31:59,190 --> 00:31:57,279
still mystery around it and like that's

873
00:32:00,630 --> 00:31:59,200
totally i guess unresolved because of

874
00:32:01,509 --> 00:32:00,640
phasma it didn't bother me i'm just

875
00:32:03,190 --> 00:32:01,519
trying to think of things like the

876
00:32:04,470 --> 00:32:03,200
person who didn't like the movie like

877
00:32:06,710 --> 00:32:04,480
brought up to me well that's a good

878
00:32:08,950 --> 00:32:06,720
point i i think finn's character did get

879
00:32:11,029 --> 00:32:08,960
the short end in this movie for sure he

880
00:32:13,509 --> 00:32:11,039
had this weird b plot with this new

881
00:32:14,789 --> 00:32:13,519
character i like that plot guys what's

882
00:32:17,350 --> 00:32:14,799
her name

883
00:32:19,350 --> 00:32:17,360
it's escaping me right now uh uh rose

884
00:32:21,430 --> 00:32:19,360
tico rose tico there we go yeah

885
00:32:24,389 --> 00:32:21,440
interesting we get introduced to this

886
00:32:25,990 --> 00:32:24,399
new character who makes a pretty bold

887
00:32:28,230 --> 00:32:26,000
heroic decision towards the end of the

888
00:32:30,389 --> 00:32:28,240
movie she was what did you guys think of

889
00:32:32,310 --> 00:32:30,399
her i i the way the trailer and the

890
00:32:34,149 --> 00:32:32,320
posters sort of portrayed her is she's

891
00:32:36,870 --> 00:32:34,159
going to be a very integral part of this

892
00:32:39,590 --> 00:32:36,880
new not just trilogy just new franchise

893
00:32:40,789 --> 00:32:39,600
moving forward and she has this weird b

894
00:32:42,950 --> 00:32:40,799
plot with

895
00:32:45,350 --> 00:32:42,960
finn that ends up at some weird ass

896
00:32:46,710 --> 00:32:45,360
casino which uh don't get me started

897
00:32:48,470 --> 00:32:46,720
that they could have cut that entire

898
00:32:49,750 --> 00:32:48,480
part out i do want to talk well when we

899
00:32:51,669 --> 00:32:49,760
get to that before do you want to talk

900
00:32:53,669 --> 00:32:51,679
about benicio del toro but chris what'd

901
00:32:55,269 --> 00:32:53,679
you think of her this new character i

902
00:32:56,950 --> 00:32:55,279
loved the character i thought the

903
00:32:59,269 --> 00:32:56,960
character was amazing i thought the

904
00:33:01,830 --> 00:32:59,279
actress was phenomenal

905
00:33:04,470 --> 00:33:01,840
i had a problem with a lot of that

906
00:33:06,389 --> 00:33:04,480
entire plot like honestly the more i

907
00:33:08,230 --> 00:33:06,399
think about it this film took place in

908
00:33:09,590 --> 00:33:08,240
two parts and both of them were a little

909
00:33:13,110 --> 00:33:09,600
underwhelming

910
00:33:15,350 --> 00:33:13,120
i really enjoyed that the uh the the

911
00:33:19,110 --> 00:33:15,360
finn the finpo

912
00:33:21,190 --> 00:33:19,120
rose storyline existed i think it was on

913
00:33:23,110 --> 00:33:21,200
ultimately what the film was

914
00:33:25,430 --> 00:33:23,120
supposed to be about

915
00:33:28,310 --> 00:33:25,440
but it didn't really

916
00:33:30,630 --> 00:33:28,320
land for me because of the subversion of

917
00:33:32,389 --> 00:33:30,640
expectations at every corner

918
00:33:34,950 --> 00:33:32,399
like on the one hand i really love that

919
00:33:37,830 --> 00:33:34,960
they essentially can we just acknowledge

920
00:33:40,710 --> 00:33:37,840
that this film is largely an allegory

921
00:33:43,190 --> 00:33:40,720
for society as we know it right now yeah

922
00:33:45,350 --> 00:33:43,200
yeah i would say that and to that end i

923
00:33:48,870 --> 00:33:45,360
i think that uh

924
00:33:51,350 --> 00:33:48,880
they're going to the one percent planet

925
00:33:53,110 --> 00:33:51,360
um that is largely

926
00:33:55,190 --> 00:33:53,120
i mean this is what it is right that's

927
00:33:58,149 --> 00:33:55,200
literally oh yeah they propose it the

928
00:34:00,710 --> 00:33:58,159
fact that they do that and they find the

929
00:34:03,430 --> 00:34:00,720
the children and the the minds and then

930
00:34:04,630 --> 00:34:03,440
the uh the the stables and all that i

931
00:34:06,310 --> 00:34:04,640
think that's beautiful and i think

932
00:34:07,909 --> 00:34:06,320
that's wonderful i think that's a really

933
00:34:11,030 --> 00:34:07,919
important message

934
00:34:13,190 --> 00:34:11,040
but as a story it didn't really do much

935
00:34:15,190 --> 00:34:13,200
for me

936
00:34:16,950 --> 00:34:15,200
movie right like its own like mini movie

937
00:34:18,470 --> 00:34:16,960
inside of the bigger movie in a weird

938
00:34:20,790 --> 00:34:18,480
way to me honestly i thought it was the

939
00:34:23,510 --> 00:34:20,800
other way around i felt like the uh i

940
00:34:26,389 --> 00:34:23,520
felt like the the because the ray uh

941
00:34:28,950 --> 00:34:26,399
luke storyline just didn't go anywhere

942
00:34:31,349 --> 00:34:28,960
for such a long time

943
00:34:33,109 --> 00:34:31,359
i mean it was fun watching it not go

944
00:34:34,629 --> 00:34:33,119
anywhere but it didn't go anywhere for

945
00:34:35,669 --> 00:34:34,639
such a long time that i just kind of

946
00:34:37,270 --> 00:34:35,679
feel like all right this is what they

947
00:34:38,950 --> 00:34:37,280
want this movie to be about they wanted

948
00:34:40,950 --> 00:34:38,960
to be about the

949
00:34:42,629 --> 00:34:40,960
uh the rebels fighting the empire and

950
00:34:44,550 --> 00:34:42,639
that was really exciting and really

951
00:34:46,470 --> 00:34:44,560
dynamic except for the fact that it

952
00:34:48,790 --> 00:34:46,480
wasn't those things

953
00:34:51,030 --> 00:34:48,800
like it doesn't change at all it's like

954
00:34:53,750 --> 00:34:51,040
okay we're being chased this thing is

955
00:34:55,829 --> 00:34:53,760
being chased and now we're going to to

956
00:34:57,430 --> 00:34:55,839
find a person and they find a person but

957
00:34:59,910 --> 00:34:57,440
the person is and i thought that was

958
00:35:01,990 --> 00:34:59,920
cool that uh that dj

959
00:35:03,829 --> 00:35:02,000
turns on them and that's not like a

960
00:35:06,230 --> 00:35:03,839
double turn

961
00:35:07,990 --> 00:35:06,240
he just turns he's just like nah i'm bad

962
00:35:10,310 --> 00:35:08,000
yeah that's great

963
00:35:12,310 --> 00:35:10,320
he's not bad he's just indifferent and i

964
00:35:15,670 --> 00:35:12,320
thought that was a great change for the

965
00:35:17,109 --> 00:35:15,680
star wars universe whereas usually uh

966
00:35:20,310 --> 00:35:17,119
that character would have turned into

967
00:35:21,670 --> 00:35:20,320
han slow lo solo or in his situation

968
00:35:23,990 --> 00:35:21,680
orlando yeah

969
00:35:25,910 --> 00:35:24,000
yeah i did get you know

970
00:35:28,069 --> 00:35:25,920
definitely wafts of lando in that

971
00:35:28,870 --> 00:35:28,079
character unless they say if this were

972
00:35:34,069 --> 00:35:28,880
uh

973
00:35:35,990 --> 00:35:34,079
that would you would have had lando pop

974
00:35:37,990 --> 00:35:36,000
up somewhere on that planet i still kind

975
00:35:38,950 --> 00:35:38,000
of ended up on that planet guys i'm not

976
00:35:39,910 --> 00:35:38,960
gonna lie

977
00:35:44,550 --> 00:35:39,920
do we

978
00:35:46,630 --> 00:35:44,560
hasn't returned to these movies

979
00:35:49,190 --> 00:35:46,640
my understanding is that it was just a

980
00:35:51,349 --> 00:35:49,200
matter of uh they didn't have a place

981
00:35:52,790 --> 00:35:51,359
for him is what the the interview said

982
00:35:54,950 --> 00:35:52,800
so i don't know what the actual reason

983
00:35:57,510 --> 00:35:54,960
is that's what they said hmm

984
00:35:59,670 --> 00:35:57,520
interesting yet we can have these porgs

985
00:36:02,470 --> 00:35:59,680
which we'll get to i love the pores back

986
00:36:04,550 --> 00:36:02,480
off the pores dude they are adorable did

987
00:36:05,829 --> 00:36:04,560
you love walks were you an ewok person i

988
00:36:07,589 --> 00:36:05,839
wasn't you i'm still in your locker

989
00:36:10,069 --> 00:36:07,599
person that's why you love the porks

990
00:36:11,670 --> 00:36:10,079
yeah absolutely well here's okay before

991
00:36:14,150 --> 00:36:11,680
we go any further let's discuss the

992
00:36:16,630 --> 00:36:14,160
porks now before this movie even came

993
00:36:19,349 --> 00:36:16,640
out these porgs became a cultural

994
00:36:21,109 --> 00:36:19,359
phenomenon a meme they were everywhere

995
00:36:23,910 --> 00:36:21,119
merchandisers out there

996
00:36:26,630 --> 00:36:23,920
everything and then uh

997
00:36:28,150 --> 00:36:26,640
like what what we got them a little

998
00:36:30,790 --> 00:36:28,160
towards the end of the movie and there

999
00:36:32,950 --> 00:36:30,800
was tons of them and they were they they

1000
00:36:35,109 --> 00:36:32,960
weren't even a part of the plot so this

1001
00:36:37,349 --> 00:36:35,119
is interesting um i think it's i think

1002
00:36:38,710 --> 00:36:37,359
it's toys and comic relief again

1003
00:36:40,710 --> 00:36:38,720
like this one i think the director was

1004
00:36:42,470 --> 00:36:40,720
like here's the line for me to from for

1005
00:36:43,990 --> 00:36:42,480
comedy right like i'm gonna draw a line

1006
00:36:45,670 --> 00:36:44,000
in the sand and i'm gonna just step

1007
00:36:47,349 --> 00:36:45,680
forward a few times just to see if i can

1008
00:36:49,030 --> 00:36:47,359
just to be like you know what

1009
00:36:50,390 --> 00:36:49,040
[\h__\h] it i'm gonna try it i'm gonna put

1010
00:36:51,990 --> 00:36:50,400
some porgs in there

1011
00:36:53,430 --> 00:36:52,000
and they're just gonna be around and i'm

1012
00:36:56,150 --> 00:36:53,440
gonna make a joke i've made a joke out

1013
00:36:57,030 --> 00:36:56,160
of vegan chewbacca so uh yeah cause i

1014
00:36:59,589 --> 00:36:57,040
can

1015
00:37:01,990 --> 00:36:59,599
i think the porgs are indicative of the

1016
00:37:05,349 --> 00:37:02,000
difference between the justice league

1017
00:37:08,069 --> 00:37:05,359
film and uh the star wars films

1018
00:37:09,750 --> 00:37:08,079
the porgs are a completely useless thing

1019
00:37:11,990 --> 00:37:09,760
that doesn't need to be there but it

1020
00:37:13,270 --> 00:37:12,000
adds so much characterization to this

1021
00:37:14,069 --> 00:37:13,280
universe

1022
00:37:16,150 --> 00:37:14,079
um

1023
00:37:18,150 --> 00:37:16,160
there are these cute little animals

1024
00:37:20,150 --> 00:37:18,160
these creatures that are

1025
00:37:23,030 --> 00:37:20,160
that are on the world and they show you

1026
00:37:26,310 --> 00:37:23,040
what life would be like here this film

1027
00:37:29,990 --> 00:37:26,320
is full of life you you see even in the

1028
00:37:33,270 --> 00:37:30,000
backgrounds of scenes with luke and rey

1029
00:37:35,109 --> 00:37:33,280
like some weird dragon sea creature off

1030
00:37:36,950 --> 00:37:35,119
in the distance

1031
00:37:39,109 --> 00:37:36,960
when you're on a planet you see the

1032
00:37:40,790 --> 00:37:39,119
birds flying you see

1033
00:37:42,950 --> 00:37:40,800
people doing weird things in the

1034
00:37:45,349 --> 00:37:42,960
background and every shot has

1035
00:37:48,150 --> 00:37:45,359
personality and you feel like this is a

1036
00:37:50,630 --> 00:37:48,160
living breathing universe whereas

1037
00:37:52,230 --> 00:37:50,640
it's fleshed out totally it's it is and

1038
00:37:53,829 --> 00:37:52,240
you feel like you're a part of something

1039
00:37:56,230 --> 00:37:53,839
you're seeing is something that's really

1040
00:37:57,910 --> 00:37:56,240
happening and that's great whereas as we

1041
00:38:00,069 --> 00:37:57,920
said with the justice league films they

1042
00:38:02,470 --> 00:38:00,079
just they're completely devoid of that

1043
00:38:04,790 --> 00:38:02,480
they have no humanity as i've said and i

1044
00:38:07,270 --> 00:38:04,800
think that's where this film really

1045
00:38:09,030 --> 00:38:07,280
thrives uh like all of the star wars

1046
00:38:10,790 --> 00:38:09,040
films when you really start to look at

1047
00:38:12,550 --> 00:38:10,800
them and study them the stories are

1048
00:38:14,790 --> 00:38:12,560
fairly rudimentary

1049
00:38:17,750 --> 00:38:14,800
but the world that they've created is

1050
00:38:18,950 --> 00:38:17,760
just overflowing with life yeah and

1051
00:38:20,150 --> 00:38:18,960
that's something you know you mentioned

1052
00:38:22,069 --> 00:38:20,160
that chris because you know going back

1053
00:38:23,750 --> 00:38:22,079
again having it's i really think it's

1054
00:38:25,030 --> 00:38:23,760
beneficial if you can to re-watch all

1055
00:38:26,230 --> 00:38:25,040
these movies before you go into a new

1056
00:38:29,109 --> 00:38:26,240
one that was i think one of the big

1057
00:38:31,270 --> 00:38:29,119
problems with the original the the the

1058
00:38:32,870 --> 00:38:31,280
the episode one two and three is that

1059
00:38:34,950 --> 00:38:32,880
they brought back to like this movie

1060
00:38:36,630 --> 00:38:34,960
especially end force awakens like the

1061
00:38:38,790 --> 00:38:36,640
tangible world right like the things

1062
00:38:41,030 --> 00:38:38,800
that you can touch and feel and you're a

1063
00:38:43,349 --> 00:38:41,040
part of like you said the porgs or any

1064
00:38:45,910 --> 00:38:43,359
like the the caretakers on the island

1065
00:38:48,390 --> 00:38:45,920
which i love right yeah absolutely that

1066
00:38:50,630 --> 00:38:48,400
i think you know that both jj abrams and

1067
00:38:52,150 --> 00:38:50,640
in a lot of ways disney because we gotta

1068
00:38:53,589 --> 00:38:52,160
throw you know good or bad you gotta

1069
00:38:55,109 --> 00:38:53,599
give him credit like we're like we need

1070
00:38:56,870 --> 00:38:55,119
to take this back to a place where it's

1071
00:38:58,390 --> 00:38:56,880
it feels tangible and real like the

1072
00:39:00,550 --> 00:38:58,400
first trilogy or the you know the

1073
00:39:02,069 --> 00:39:00,560
original four five and six and i really

1074
00:39:03,990 --> 00:39:02,079
did like this about this movie even the

1075
00:39:05,349 --> 00:39:04,000
even the the worlds that were really cgi

1076
00:39:07,030 --> 00:39:05,359
like the casino

1077
00:39:08,790 --> 00:39:07,040
i still felt like it was a tangible

1078
00:39:11,990 --> 00:39:08,800
place to me like some place that i could

1079
00:39:14,310 --> 00:39:12,000
go and exist and and engross myself in

1080
00:39:15,829 --> 00:39:14,320
and that's why i'll forgive a lot of the

1081
00:39:17,589 --> 00:39:15,839
like quote unquote sins that i thought

1082
00:39:19,109 --> 00:39:17,599
this movie had because which is the same

1083
00:39:21,109 --> 00:39:19,119
way i feel about four five six like i'll

1084
00:39:23,270 --> 00:39:21,119
forgive whatever sins they have because

1085
00:39:25,589 --> 00:39:23,280
i'm so transported into that world it's

1086
00:39:27,349 --> 00:39:25,599
so engrossive sure and i felt this was

1087
00:39:29,190 --> 00:39:27,359
even more so like i love the part where

1088
00:39:31,030 --> 00:39:29,200
they're on the planet and they they pick

1089
00:39:32,550 --> 00:39:31,040
up the and again it's exposition but

1090
00:39:34,550 --> 00:39:32,560
it's just beautiful they're like it's

1091
00:39:36,790 --> 00:39:34,560
salt and you're like oh

1092
00:39:39,190 --> 00:39:36,800
all right i hated that moment like i

1093
00:39:41,510 --> 00:39:39,200
understood why it was there but all it

1094
00:39:43,430 --> 00:39:41,520
screamed to me of some sort of a design

1095
00:39:45,430 --> 00:39:43,440
choice where they just went

1096
00:39:46,710 --> 00:39:45,440
we gotta explain what this step is

1097
00:39:48,550 --> 00:39:46,720
because people are gonna think he's

1098
00:39:51,430 --> 00:39:48,560
bleeding so let's just have him point

1099
00:39:52,870 --> 00:39:51,440
out exposition it away it'll be fine

1100
00:39:54,230 --> 00:39:52,880
it's funny i just felt the opposite

1101
00:39:56,470 --> 00:39:54,240
because for me and maybe this is because

1102
00:39:58,870 --> 00:39:56,480
i'm not a writer like you guys are um

1103
00:40:01,030 --> 00:39:58,880
that for me it's just like joe smo actor

1104
00:40:02,390 --> 00:40:01,040
guy watching a movie i sometimes like

1105
00:40:03,430 --> 00:40:02,400
that little stuff because i wouldn't

1106
00:40:04,710 --> 00:40:03,440
have cared either way if you would have

1107
00:40:06,870 --> 00:40:04,720
never told me what it was i would have

1108
00:40:08,470 --> 00:40:06,880
been like don't give a [\h__\h] but the fact

1109
00:40:10,310 --> 00:40:08,480
that you did i just enjoyed it it just

1110
00:40:11,589 --> 00:40:10,320
showed like a new thought to a movie

1111
00:40:12,710 --> 00:40:11,599
right like even if it was like we want

1112
00:40:14,390 --> 00:40:12,720
to make something that looks cool we

1113
00:40:16,310 --> 00:40:14,400
don't want it to be stone uh snow

1114
00:40:17,670 --> 00:40:16,320
because we had hop already make it salt

1115
00:40:19,510 --> 00:40:17,680
but i just i don't know it was a nice

1116
00:40:21,349 --> 00:40:19,520
touch i liked it i liked that it was it

1117
00:40:22,950 --> 00:40:21,359
felt very exposition to me but i still

1118
00:40:24,310 --> 00:40:22,960
liked it it made me like okay that's

1119
00:40:26,310 --> 00:40:24,320
what this world is it's a brand new

1120
00:40:28,069 --> 00:40:26,320
world i i think i think you're right i

1121
00:40:29,670 --> 00:40:28,079
think it helped flesh out

1122
00:40:32,069 --> 00:40:29,680
what the one thing i always appreciated

1123
00:40:35,030 --> 00:40:32,079
about star wars is the the difference in

1124
00:40:36,550 --> 00:40:35,040
all the planets it's like extremes you

1125
00:40:38,310 --> 00:40:36,560
know what i mean and every time you go

1126
00:40:41,030 --> 00:40:38,320
to a new planet it's something that

1127
00:40:43,030 --> 00:40:41,040
you're like oh wow like it's an entire

1128
00:40:45,589 --> 00:40:43,040
planet of forest it's an entire planet

1129
00:40:47,190 --> 00:40:45,599
of snow really interesting so i i like

1130
00:40:49,829 --> 00:40:47,200
that they sort of hearken back to that

1131
00:40:52,230 --> 00:40:49,839
idea of all white um there's something

1132
00:40:53,750 --> 00:40:52,240
about it that was extremely it just

1133
00:40:55,910 --> 00:40:53,760
captured the eye especially when the

1134
00:40:57,190 --> 00:40:55,920
battle began on the planet

1135
00:40:59,430 --> 00:40:57,200
they thought they were just doing hoth

1136
00:41:00,470 --> 00:40:59,440
again hoth again yeah i did see it first

1137
00:41:02,950 --> 00:41:00,480
part d

1138
00:41:04,390 --> 00:41:02,960
did you guys catch the like love square

1139
00:41:06,790 --> 00:41:04,400
that they're setting up at the end of

1140
00:41:10,150 --> 00:41:06,800
the film between like rey and poe ray

1141
00:41:11,349 --> 00:41:10,160
and finn finn yeah that's weird

1142
00:41:12,630 --> 00:41:11,359
i'm like where's it gonna get might not

1143
00:41:15,270 --> 00:41:12,640
go anywhere knowing this it could be

1144
00:41:17,270 --> 00:41:15,280
nothing but like so i kind of just can i

1145
00:41:20,230 --> 00:41:17,280
just say that they had suggested that

1146
00:41:22,470 --> 00:41:20,240
eventually there's gonna be an lgbtqa

1147
00:41:23,829 --> 00:41:22,480
relationship in this india star wars

1148
00:41:25,750 --> 00:41:23,839
universe

1149
00:41:28,230 --> 00:41:25,760
is anybody wondering if they're going to

1150
00:41:29,829 --> 00:41:28,240
start adding polyamory too because

1151
00:41:32,390 --> 00:41:29,839
that's the only way i can see this

1152
00:41:33,829 --> 00:41:32,400
working because of how many different

1153
00:41:36,950 --> 00:41:33,839
relationships they have in that thing

1154
00:41:39,589 --> 00:41:36,960
now here's my thing and i hate hate hate

1155
00:41:42,390 --> 00:41:39,599
to say this but we have to remember that

1156
00:41:44,470 --> 00:41:42,400
this is disney and they have to take

1157
00:41:46,870 --> 00:41:44,480
baby steps when it comes to that stuff

1158
00:41:49,430 --> 00:41:46,880
now when if when we first when force

1159
00:41:51,270 --> 00:41:49,440
awakens came and went you know the

1160
00:41:53,109 --> 00:41:51,280
rumors were that finn and poe were gonna

1161
00:41:55,430 --> 00:41:53,119
end up together and i was all for that

1162
00:41:58,470 --> 00:41:55,440
i'm like that'd be incredible and now

1163
00:42:00,309 --> 00:41:58,480
this new writer again i think he's

1164
00:42:02,150 --> 00:42:00,319
keeping us on our toes that we have no

1165
00:42:04,069 --> 00:42:02,160
idea what's coming next and because of

1166
00:42:06,710 --> 00:42:04,079
how successful this movie was with this

1167
00:42:08,950 --> 00:42:06,720
writer and director i do wonder you know

1168
00:42:10,710 --> 00:42:08,960
i believe jj abrams is writing the next

1169
00:42:13,589 --> 00:42:10,720
one uh he's writing and directing the

1170
00:42:15,270 --> 00:42:13,599
next okay yeah um if they will tackle

1171
00:42:17,270 --> 00:42:15,280
any of that chris uh it'll be

1172
00:42:19,190 --> 00:42:17,280
interesting i think right now we have

1173
00:42:21,190 --> 00:42:19,200
absolutely no clue who might be

1174
00:42:23,430 --> 00:42:21,200
romantically interested who might not or

1175
00:42:25,589 --> 00:42:23,440
if any of them will who knows i

1176
00:42:27,349 --> 00:42:25,599
personally suspect that rose and her

1177
00:42:30,470 --> 00:42:27,359
sister were originally supposed to be

1178
00:42:32,069 --> 00:42:30,480
rose and her lover and that once rayne

1179
00:42:33,829 --> 00:42:32,079
or ryan or whatever his name is got a

1180
00:42:35,349 --> 00:42:33,839
hold of it they changed it

1181
00:42:36,870 --> 00:42:35,359
or maybe disney backed out i don't want

1182
00:42:38,230 --> 00:42:36,880
to blame the director just because

1183
00:42:39,910 --> 00:42:38,240
things change you never know it could

1184
00:42:42,230 --> 00:42:39,920
have been any number of things but i

1185
00:42:44,710 --> 00:42:42,240
could see that when i saw her

1186
00:42:46,150 --> 00:42:44,720
looking down at that uh that necklace in

1187
00:42:47,670 --> 00:42:46,160
her hands i just

1188
00:42:49,349 --> 00:42:47,680
looked and i was like oh my god they did

1189
00:42:50,710 --> 00:42:49,359
it this is amazing this is a and they

1190
00:42:52,950 --> 00:42:50,720
don't even have to acknowledge it like

1191
00:42:55,349 --> 00:42:52,960
people who know will know and then that

1192
00:42:57,109 --> 00:42:55,359
gets the disney uh the disney vacation

1193
00:42:59,030 --> 00:42:57,119
of it out of the way and it'll work i

1194
00:43:01,990 --> 00:42:59,040
was so excited and then she said i just

1195
00:43:03,430 --> 00:43:02,000
lost my sister i was like oh you cowards

1196
00:43:05,190 --> 00:43:03,440
yeah but i mean i always remember like

1197
00:43:06,550 --> 00:43:05,200
it is disney we have to take i mean i

1198
00:43:07,990 --> 00:43:06,560
know this is a cop but like because it

1199
00:43:09,270 --> 00:43:08,000
doesn't you have to take the like good

1200
00:43:10,630 --> 00:43:09,280
and the bad of disney right same thing

1201
00:43:12,069 --> 00:43:10,640
the marvel films like i watch those

1202
00:43:13,829 --> 00:43:12,079
films i'm like i know it's a good disney

1203
00:43:16,069 --> 00:43:13,839
fight but i'll take it because right now

1204
00:43:18,790 --> 00:43:16,079
they're still really good yeah and i

1205
00:43:20,470 --> 00:43:18,800
just i want good yeah and i mean again

1206
00:43:23,030 --> 00:43:20,480
force awakens was the first time we saw

1207
00:43:24,230 --> 00:43:23,040
blood in a star wars movie you know

1208
00:43:27,109 --> 00:43:24,240
that's not true there's blood in your

1209
00:43:30,150 --> 00:43:27,119
head was it blood was it blood or was it

1210
00:43:32,150 --> 00:43:30,160
just uh his uniform chopping up

1211
00:43:34,390 --> 00:43:32,160
hmm i thought it was just his red

1212
00:43:35,510 --> 00:43:34,400
uniform being chopped up hmm

1213
00:43:36,630 --> 00:43:35,520
i think it's blood because there is

1214
00:43:38,710 --> 00:43:36,640
blood and new hope guys when his arm

1215
00:43:39,670 --> 00:43:38,720
gets cut off there's blood is there i

1216
00:43:42,550 --> 00:43:39,680
remember yes

1217
00:43:44,710 --> 00:43:42,560
when obi-wan chops the arm off of uh the

1218
00:43:46,390 --> 00:43:44,720
dude in the bar there's blood all right

1219
00:43:48,470 --> 00:43:46,400
i retract my statement that i'm a huge

1220
00:43:50,309 --> 00:43:48,480
star wars fan all right

1221
00:43:55,030 --> 00:43:50,319
all the reason i know so let's get to

1222
00:43:56,790 --> 00:43:55,040
laura dern vice admiral amelon haldo um

1223
00:43:59,589 --> 00:43:56,800
i didn't care for this one guys i

1224
00:44:02,069 --> 00:43:59,599
thought it was completely unnecessary i

1225
00:44:03,670 --> 00:44:02,079
understand sarah's work lower turns in

1226
00:44:05,430 --> 00:44:03,680
that movie i think that was a pretty

1227
00:44:07,510 --> 00:44:05,440
good like she looked like she was out of

1228
00:44:09,430 --> 00:44:07,520
the fifth element or something i mean

1229
00:44:11,589 --> 00:44:09,440
star wars it kind of always comes out

1230
00:44:14,790 --> 00:44:11,599
that way yeah but i mean i guess my

1231
00:44:16,630 --> 00:44:14,800
question is was her storyline like yeah

1232
00:44:18,710 --> 00:44:16,640
she ends up sacrificing herself at the

1233
00:44:21,349 --> 00:44:18,720
end for this greater cause but like i

1234
00:44:23,349 --> 00:44:21,359
didn't understand really what was going

1235
00:44:25,910 --> 00:44:23,359
on between her and poe and this struggle

1236
00:44:28,630 --> 00:44:25,920
for like control over what the you know

1237
00:44:30,710 --> 00:44:28,640
the resistance was gonna do next it just

1238
00:44:33,510 --> 00:44:30,720
felt weird i didn't know like was she

1239
00:44:34,630 --> 00:44:33,520
was she like a double agent and like

1240
00:44:37,190 --> 00:44:34,640
trying to

1241
00:44:38,870 --> 00:44:37,200
uh sabotage i think that's what it was

1242
00:44:41,349 --> 00:44:38,880
unclear to me i think that's what they

1243
00:44:42,470 --> 00:44:41,359
were trying to set up and by that i mean

1244
00:44:43,990 --> 00:44:42,480
they were trying to set up that

1245
00:44:45,990 --> 00:44:44,000
suspicion of oh my god they're being

1246
00:44:47,349 --> 00:44:46,000
followed maybe she's a double agent and

1247
00:44:50,550 --> 00:44:47,359
it's her fault

1248
00:44:52,790 --> 00:44:50,560
but honestly i i don't feel like if they

1249
00:44:55,829 --> 00:44:52,800
were trying to do that that it landed i

1250
00:44:57,430 --> 00:44:55,839
honestly think it was very clearly a

1251
00:44:58,870 --> 00:44:57,440
second act set up for the third act

1252
00:45:00,950 --> 00:44:58,880
twist where

1253
00:45:03,270 --> 00:45:00,960
uh poe dameron has to become the

1254
00:45:06,390 --> 00:45:03,280
commander because

1255
00:45:08,390 --> 00:45:06,400
leia's no longer with us

1256
00:45:10,390 --> 00:45:08,400
right but then yeah this is the part

1257
00:45:11,750 --> 00:45:10,400
where the pacing really fell flat for me

1258
00:45:14,390 --> 00:45:11,760
guys because then

1259
00:45:16,309 --> 00:45:14,400
it's like oh poe takes control oh no now

1260
00:45:17,990 --> 00:45:16,319
she's back in control it was just it was

1261
00:45:19,270 --> 00:45:18,000
way too quick for me i don't know i

1262
00:45:20,950 --> 00:45:19,280
think it's i think yeah it didn't work

1263
00:45:23,030 --> 00:45:20,960
for me i again a lot of the stuff that

1264
00:45:25,349 --> 00:45:23,040
didn't i just i was like okay whatever

1265
00:45:26,870 --> 00:45:25,359
but i think it's also the idea of giving

1266
00:45:28,710 --> 00:45:26,880
poe someone to learn what it is to be a

1267
00:45:30,309 --> 00:45:28,720
leader if that makes sense because like

1268
00:45:32,950 --> 00:45:30,319
while there is leia like pose the hot

1269
00:45:35,349 --> 00:45:32,960
head right he's the i guess the han solo

1270
00:45:37,190 --> 00:45:35,359
oh i just realized something and this is

1271
00:45:40,309 --> 00:45:37,200
going to sound really bad do you think

1272
00:45:41,990 --> 00:45:40,319
that the reason she's in this is because

1273
00:45:43,910 --> 00:45:42,000
uh um

1274
00:45:45,750 --> 00:45:43,920
carrie fisher passed away and

1275
00:45:47,510 --> 00:45:45,760
a lot of that was no it's not possible

1276
00:45:49,430 --> 00:45:47,520
because they're in scenes together

1277
00:45:51,430 --> 00:45:49,440
yep and she died and carrie fisher the

1278
00:45:53,109 --> 00:45:51,440
you know terry fisher's still very much

1279
00:45:55,190 --> 00:45:53,119
alive at the end of this movie carrie

1280
00:45:57,990 --> 00:45:55,200
fisher pulled a superman and we will get

1281
00:46:05,190 --> 00:45:58,000
to that oh oh that uh yeah we will get

1282
00:46:08,950 --> 00:46:07,670
i'm sorry go ahead go ahead uh i know

1283
00:46:10,790 --> 00:46:08,960
obviously i think

1284
00:46:12,390 --> 00:46:10,800
characters there just to like so poe can

1285
00:46:14,630 --> 00:46:12,400
see what like quote-unquote true

1286
00:46:15,910 --> 00:46:14,640
leadership is right that she had this

1287
00:46:17,990 --> 00:46:15,920
this is what it's like to have a bigger

1288
00:46:19,750 --> 00:46:18,000
plan besides just like [\h__\h] drop the

1289
00:46:21,670 --> 00:46:19,760
bombs because we can and she's like no

1290
00:46:23,670 --> 00:46:21,680
there was a bigger idea and a bigger

1291
00:46:27,030 --> 00:46:23,680
plan at work and then when it came time

1292
00:46:28,710 --> 00:46:27,040
for her to react impulsively and be you

1293
00:46:30,309 --> 00:46:28,720
know for her to be the fly but just fly

1294
00:46:32,550 --> 00:46:30,319
the ship into it she does it right so

1295
00:46:33,910 --> 00:46:32,560
it's like this is what leadership is

1296
00:46:35,750 --> 00:46:33,920
that might not have worked but i got

1297
00:46:37,109 --> 00:46:35,760
what they were trying to do with that

1298
00:46:38,870 --> 00:46:37,119
character because you they didn't want

1299
00:46:40,870 --> 00:46:38,880
to kill leia off yet

1300
00:46:41,589 --> 00:46:40,880
right which you can only you can only

1301
00:46:43,990 --> 00:46:41,599
lose

1302
00:46:46,230 --> 00:46:44,000
movie guys one character a movie well

1303
00:46:48,630 --> 00:46:46,240
that's the thing and we're almost there

1304
00:46:50,710 --> 00:46:48,640
uh that was one of the biggest twists in

1305
00:46:53,670 --> 00:46:50,720
this movie that a lot of people were not

1306
00:46:56,309 --> 00:46:53,680
expecting was uh which character we were

1307
00:46:58,710 --> 00:46:56,319
going to lose so we are going to tread

1308
00:47:01,109 --> 00:46:58,720
lightly and get to that but before we go

1309
00:47:04,390 --> 00:47:01,119
any further guys there is a i don't know

1310
00:47:07,190 --> 00:47:04,400
if he's uncredited but he is credited in

1311
00:47:11,030 --> 00:47:07,200
the cast list on wikipedia and that's

1312
00:47:12,790 --> 00:47:11,040
tom hardy so as who stormtrooper that's

1313
00:47:15,750 --> 00:47:12,800
it oh kinda like how uh

1314
00:47:18,550 --> 00:47:15,760
how um daniel daniel craig of uh force

1315
00:47:21,030 --> 00:47:18,560
awakens was yeah so i see this being the

1316
00:47:22,870 --> 00:47:21,040
new you know sort of stan lee in every

1317
00:47:25,349 --> 00:47:22,880
marvel movie we're gonna get like an

1318
00:47:27,430 --> 00:47:25,359
a-list celebrity playing an uncredited

1319
00:47:28,870 --> 00:47:27,440
usually masked character in all of these

1320
00:47:31,109 --> 00:47:28,880
who just wants to be in [\h__\h] star

1321
00:47:32,630 --> 00:47:31,119
wars which is awesome and i wish i had

1322
00:47:33,829 --> 00:47:32,640
the clout to do something like that yeah

1323
00:47:35,270 --> 00:47:33,839
hey i just want to be in it i don't care

1324
00:47:37,670 --> 00:47:35,280
what i do just can you put me in it

1325
00:47:39,430 --> 00:47:37,680
thanks seriously yeah so yeah i'm hardy

1326
00:47:43,190 --> 00:47:39,440
was in this one again proving that he's

1327
00:47:45,670 --> 00:47:43,200
the best actor to wear a mask so i'm on

1328
00:47:48,550 --> 00:47:45,680
it's true i'm on imdb right now it turns

1329
00:47:51,270 --> 00:47:48,560
out it looks like there's a few more uh

1330
00:47:54,150 --> 00:47:51,280
surprises that you probably didn't catch

1331
00:47:56,550 --> 00:47:54,160
so joseph gordon-levitt did the voice of

1332
00:47:58,069 --> 00:47:56,560
slow and low

1333
00:48:00,710 --> 00:47:58,079
i don't even know what that is that

1334
00:48:01,829 --> 00:48:00,720
makes sense he was a hooper yeah exactly

1335
00:48:05,510 --> 00:48:01,839
and um

1336
00:48:09,109 --> 00:48:05,520
and it looks like uh lord

1337
00:48:11,349 --> 00:48:09,119
um i assume that's who uh billy lord is

1338
00:48:14,710 --> 00:48:11,359
is lieutenant comics

1339
00:48:16,550 --> 00:48:14,720
um uh justin thoreau was master code

1340
00:48:19,109 --> 00:48:16,560
breaker so the guy who they were

1341
00:48:20,790 --> 00:48:19,119
supposed to get that's who that is okay

1342
00:48:23,349 --> 00:48:20,800
wait who's just yeah

1343
00:48:25,349 --> 00:48:23,359
nicholas bro was in the leftovers he was

1344
00:48:27,190 --> 00:48:25,359
he was or is married to jennifer aniston

1345
00:48:28,790 --> 00:48:27,200
oh okay i thought we were talking about

1346
00:48:32,069 --> 00:48:28,800
the uh dude

1347
00:48:32,829 --> 00:48:32,079
billy lord is is uh k fisher's daughter

1348
00:48:36,870 --> 00:48:32,839
oh

1349
00:48:39,030 --> 00:48:36,880
right

1350
00:48:42,230 --> 00:48:39,040
that's true fisher's daughter absolutely

1351
00:48:45,990 --> 00:48:42,240
that's right we also have gareth edwards

1352
00:48:47,670 --> 00:48:46,000
uh was resistance trench soldier and i

1353
00:48:49,750 --> 00:48:47,680
think that's all of them that are listed

1354
00:48:52,069 --> 00:48:49,760
here on imdb

1355
00:48:55,589 --> 00:48:52,079
that's awesome i love it oh and gary the

1356
00:48:57,030 --> 00:48:55,599
dog played the space gary uncredited

1357
00:48:59,030 --> 00:48:57,040
nice i don't know i just think that

1358
00:49:01,349 --> 00:48:59,040
one's funny to say that's pretty awesome

1359
00:49:03,030 --> 00:49:01,359
okay so okay let's get to it i i know

1360
00:49:05,109 --> 00:49:03,040
you're chomping no no there's one they

1361
00:49:06,790 --> 00:49:05,119
want to get you so hello we all know who

1362
00:49:08,230 --> 00:49:06,800
becomes the great the grand supreme

1363
00:49:09,750 --> 00:49:08,240
leader by the end of this movie right

1364
00:49:11,349 --> 00:49:09,760
hold on before we move on to luke

1365
00:49:14,470 --> 00:49:11,359
skywalker can i say my piece about

1366
00:49:16,150 --> 00:49:14,480
carrie fisher and her uh her okay

1367
00:49:17,829 --> 00:49:16,160
i disagree with you on this one all

1368
00:49:20,790 --> 00:49:17,839
right so this i

1369
00:49:23,870 --> 00:49:20,800
i i am really upset that that princess

1370
00:49:26,470 --> 00:49:23,880
leia arguably the most exciting and

1371
00:49:29,430 --> 00:49:26,480
anticipated jedi

1372
00:49:32,150 --> 00:49:29,440
in all of the world is never going to

1373
00:49:35,109 --> 00:49:32,160
get to use her power in any sort of

1374
00:49:37,510 --> 00:49:35,119
interesting way okay she did some weird

1375
00:49:40,150 --> 00:49:37,520
like as you as you call it supermanning

1376
00:49:42,230 --> 00:49:40,160
out of space and then she promptly fell

1377
00:49:44,390 --> 00:49:42,240
asleep for the next half a movie

1378
00:49:46,630 --> 00:49:44,400
i was like okay cool you got to see that

1379
00:49:48,549 --> 00:49:46,640
she had powers i granted she's been

1380
00:49:50,150 --> 00:49:48,559
telepathically communicating with people

1381
00:49:52,230 --> 00:49:50,160
for however long

1382
00:49:54,470 --> 00:49:52,240
but why couldn't she lift those boulders

1383
00:49:56,309 --> 00:49:54,480
at the end why couldn't she have like

1384
00:49:59,510 --> 00:49:56,319
lowered the door with her why couldn't

1385
00:50:02,790 --> 00:49:59,520
she have had her beautiful moments where

1386
00:50:05,910 --> 00:50:02,800
she's going to to do something like why

1387
00:50:07,910 --> 00:50:05,920
couldn't she drive the the ship with her

1388
00:50:08,710 --> 00:50:07,920
mind or something like she needed to

1389
00:50:12,630 --> 00:50:08,720
have

1390
00:50:15,589 --> 00:50:12,640
a moment where she got because she is a

1391
00:50:19,510 --> 00:50:15,599
generations princess who finally became

1392
00:50:21,349 --> 00:50:19,520
a general who she is the embodiment of

1393
00:50:22,309 --> 00:50:21,359
the feminist movement

1394
00:50:26,470 --> 00:50:22,319
and

1395
00:50:28,390 --> 00:50:26,480
that's really depressing

1396
00:50:29,990 --> 00:50:28,400
well i can say go read the books because

1397
00:50:31,430 --> 00:50:30,000
in the books she does have force she

1398
00:50:32,549 --> 00:50:31,440
does use it right you know the thing i

1399
00:50:34,470 --> 00:50:32,559
think if you think about i agree with

1400
00:50:36,230 --> 00:50:34,480
you chris i actually do maybe that was

1401
00:50:38,870 --> 00:50:36,240
gonna come and she passed away that's

1402
00:50:41,510 --> 00:50:38,880
what i'm thinking no we like that that

1403
00:50:43,109 --> 00:50:41,520
that scene was an introduction to

1404
00:50:44,950 --> 00:50:43,119
because she's the last one right she's

1405
00:50:46,630 --> 00:50:44,960
the last of the three and they and they

1406
00:50:49,030 --> 00:50:46,640
had said that they were leaving her they

1407
00:50:51,430 --> 00:50:49,040
are she was going to be the major player

1408
00:50:54,230 --> 00:50:51,440
in the third movie as well so maybe that

1409
00:50:55,910 --> 00:50:54,240
force was that was gonna happen later on

1410
00:50:57,270 --> 00:50:55,920
and now we've that opportunity's gone

1411
00:50:58,870 --> 00:50:57,280
which is really sad and that was an

1412
00:51:01,589 --> 00:50:58,880
introduction to just how powerful

1413
00:51:04,150 --> 00:51:01,599
potentially she is because ben is too

1414
00:51:06,390 --> 00:51:04,160
and so is luke yeah agreed yeah i i

1415
00:51:08,390 --> 00:51:06,400
think this is so sad and christian right

1416
00:51:10,870 --> 00:51:08,400
it still sucks but it sucks and i think

1417
00:51:12,470 --> 00:51:10,880
it was it was just a tiny hint of what

1418
00:51:14,309 --> 00:51:12,480
we were going to get in this third

1419
00:51:16,230 --> 00:51:14,319
installment of the trilogy um

1420
00:51:18,069 --> 00:51:16,240
unfortunately as we all know she passed

1421
00:51:20,390 --> 00:51:18,079
away how they're going to deal with this

1422
00:51:22,950 --> 00:51:20,400
is going to be very interesting because

1423
00:51:25,430 --> 00:51:22,960
this leads to the biggest twist i would

1424
00:51:27,510 --> 00:51:25,440
say in the entire movie so nick i know

1425
00:51:28,549 --> 00:51:27,520
you've been sort of waiting for this so

1426
00:51:29,670 --> 00:51:28,559
i'm going to let you i want to

1427
00:51:33,430 --> 00:51:29,680
definitely well i want to talk about

1428
00:51:35,670 --> 00:51:33,440
kylo ren before i get into this because

1429
00:51:38,710 --> 00:51:35,680
fine i was kidding dude

1430
00:51:40,790 --> 00:51:38,720
i was giving you gold and you just shut

1431
00:51:42,470 --> 00:51:40,800
it back in my face okay

1432
00:51:44,069 --> 00:51:42,480
i want kylo ren to be bad i don't want a

1433
00:51:45,589 --> 00:51:44,079
good kylo ren i want kylo ren to be bad

1434
00:51:46,950 --> 00:51:45,599
for the entire film and i don't want him

1435
00:51:49,750 --> 00:51:46,960
to redeem himself now i can talk about

1436
00:51:52,069 --> 00:51:49,760
luke if you want me to no let's actually

1437
00:51:53,910 --> 00:51:52,079
let's discuss kylo just for a moment

1438
00:51:56,390 --> 00:51:53,920
here for sure what do you guys think of

1439
00:51:58,710 --> 00:51:56,400
adam driver's portrayal of what we

1440
00:52:00,549 --> 00:51:58,720
consider the new darth vader i think

1441
00:52:01,990 --> 00:52:00,559
kylo ren

1442
00:52:03,589 --> 00:52:02,000
actually let me rephrase this i think

1443
00:52:07,670 --> 00:52:03,599
adam driver

1444
00:52:10,710 --> 00:52:07,680
is a very mediocre actor whose very

1445
00:52:11,670 --> 00:52:10,720
mediocre talents show very well in star

1446
00:52:14,150 --> 00:52:11,680
wars

1447
00:52:16,630 --> 00:52:14,160
he's he doesn't do angry very well he

1448
00:52:19,430 --> 00:52:16,640
doesn't do conflicted very well

1449
00:52:22,069 --> 00:52:19,440
but dang it it works it works in that

1450
00:52:23,670 --> 00:52:22,079
kind of caricature style that star wars

1451
00:52:26,150 --> 00:52:23,680
has always had

1452
00:52:28,790 --> 00:52:26,160
where good and bad is always very

1453
00:52:30,870 --> 00:52:28,800
clearly outlined so much so that their

1454
00:52:33,670 --> 00:52:30,880
swords change colors based upon their

1455
00:52:35,750 --> 00:52:33,680
feelings i i like it it's not good but i

1456
00:52:37,670 --> 00:52:35,760
like it i will take a kyle i will take

1457
00:52:39,990 --> 00:52:37,680
an driver over a hating christian

1458
00:52:42,630 --> 00:52:40,000
christensen playing a distraught jedi

1459
00:52:43,990 --> 00:52:42,640
all day and twice on sunday um

1460
00:52:46,230 --> 00:52:44,000
i think he's i think he's what they

1461
00:52:48,150 --> 00:52:46,240
wanted anakin to be but couldn't get a

1462
00:52:50,390 --> 00:52:48,160
decent actor to do it yeah or just

1463
00:52:51,670 --> 00:52:50,400
george lucas was just like i love him i

1464
00:52:53,430 --> 00:52:51,680
you know what's funny like i'm i'm kind

1465
00:52:55,430 --> 00:52:53,440
of with chris and again chris pryous

1466
00:52:57,589 --> 00:52:55,440
remember this we saw em driver on stage

1467
00:52:59,670 --> 00:52:57,599
a long time ago at rattlestick theater

1468
00:53:00,630 --> 00:52:59,680
company and i remember seeing him being

1469
00:53:02,630 --> 00:53:00,640
like

1470
00:53:04,230 --> 00:53:02,640
okay do you remember what play that was

1471
00:53:05,990 --> 00:53:04,240
i don't i remember chris you took it to

1472
00:53:07,829 --> 00:53:06,000
me it was that was one of the like you

1473
00:53:10,230 --> 00:53:07,839
know experimental plays

1474
00:53:11,670 --> 00:53:10,240
wasn't it no no no it was not like a

1475
00:53:14,069 --> 00:53:11,680
major annie baker plan i don't think it

1476
00:53:15,510 --> 00:53:14,079
ever got produced past battle wow for

1477
00:53:17,349 --> 00:53:15,520
anyone who doesn't know rattlestick is

1478
00:53:20,710 --> 00:53:17,359
one of the best theater companies in new

1479
00:53:23,670 --> 00:53:20,720
york city hands down new bold risky

1480
00:53:24,950 --> 00:53:23,680
plays go see their work okay plug done

1481
00:53:26,710 --> 00:53:24,960
and they workshop a lot of stuff which

1482
00:53:28,470 --> 00:53:26,720
is what we which is what chris and i saw

1483
00:53:30,950 --> 00:53:28,480
so here's the thing like i'm not like an

1484
00:53:33,270 --> 00:53:30,960
adam driver fan like i i have moments

1485
00:53:35,990 --> 00:53:33,280
from like i can i can recognize that he

1486
00:53:37,589 --> 00:53:36,000
can do really good work and i can

1487
00:53:39,349 --> 00:53:37,599
i can enjoy his work and i think he does

1488
00:53:41,030 --> 00:53:39,359
some interesting stuff as a character

1489
00:53:42,870 --> 00:53:41,040
that can be subtle and i think he's

1490
00:53:44,549 --> 00:53:42,880
doing exactly what they want him to do

1491
00:53:46,309 --> 00:53:44,559
in those in those massive mood swings

1492
00:53:47,349 --> 00:53:46,319
and to be clear i think that's hard as

1493
00:53:49,270 --> 00:53:47,359
an actor because when you have those

1494
00:53:52,390 --> 00:53:49,280
massive mood swings you have to justify

1495
00:53:54,790 --> 00:53:52,400
it for it to work um sure but that being

1496
00:53:57,109 --> 00:53:54,800
said i'm just not an adam driver fan

1497
00:53:58,950 --> 00:53:57,119
does that make sense yeah like he's fine

1498
00:54:00,790 --> 00:53:58,960
i enjoy him i enjoy him in the movie i

1499
00:54:02,549 --> 00:54:00,800
think he does a good job with it i'm

1500
00:54:04,390 --> 00:54:02,559
just not like oh yeah

1501
00:54:06,150 --> 00:54:04,400
dude i'm drivers in this movie i gotta

1502
00:54:08,230 --> 00:54:06,160
go see it i'm just like oh adam driver's

1503
00:54:09,990 --> 00:54:08,240
here okay he's not you know he's not

1504
00:54:11,750 --> 00:54:10,000
gonna make it bad he's just he's going

1505
00:54:14,390 --> 00:54:11,760
to be there and he's going to serve the

1506
00:54:15,750 --> 00:54:14,400
role yeah i miss the helmet yeah i

1507
00:54:18,549 --> 00:54:15,760
really like that it was a really good

1508
00:54:19,750 --> 00:54:18,559
design it was it was pretty scary too

1509
00:54:21,430 --> 00:54:19,760
you just wanted to have a shirt off the

1510
00:54:25,190 --> 00:54:21,440
whole time don't you you were like adam

1511
00:54:27,030 --> 00:54:25,200
driver as long as he has his helmet on

1512
00:54:28,230 --> 00:54:27,040
that that was another great moment we

1513
00:54:30,470 --> 00:54:28,240
had when uh

1514
00:54:33,270 --> 00:54:30,480
when kylo and rey are having their like

1515
00:54:35,829 --> 00:54:33,280
intimate uh telepathic communication

1516
00:54:37,990 --> 00:54:35,839
it's uh kylo's their shirtless and she

1517
00:54:40,630 --> 00:54:38,000
can see him and she's just like uh could

1518
00:54:42,309 --> 00:54:40,640
you put you know maybe a cowl on or

1519
00:54:43,750 --> 00:54:42,319
something

1520
00:54:46,150 --> 00:54:43,760
i really like what they're doing with

1521
00:54:47,990 --> 00:54:46,160
the character though in terms of spoiler

1522
00:54:50,829 --> 00:54:48,000
he kills snoke which is one of the big

1523
00:54:52,630 --> 00:54:50,839
things where you're like oh [\h__\h] yeah um

1524
00:54:55,510 --> 00:54:52,640
yeah and let's let's point out like that

1525
00:54:57,510 --> 00:54:55,520
is shocking like that is arguably the

1526
00:54:58,710 --> 00:54:57,520
most shocking thing in this film i

1527
00:55:00,549 --> 00:54:58,720
thought it was one of the most effective

1528
00:55:02,230 --> 00:55:00,559
moments in the film in terms of the

1529
00:55:03,829 --> 00:55:02,240
twist they did do to me that was the

1530
00:55:05,829 --> 00:55:03,839
most effective where i was like holy

1531
00:55:07,589 --> 00:55:05,839
[\h__\h] he's the you know the sith they

1532
00:55:09,589 --> 00:55:07,599
always kill their master like that's the

1533
00:55:11,670 --> 00:55:09,599
the thing we set up from episode like

1534
00:55:13,349 --> 00:55:11,680
one two three four five six seven like

1535
00:55:16,230 --> 00:55:13,359
and to just see that happen to finally

1536
00:55:17,510 --> 00:55:16,240
witness the apprentice kill the master

1537
00:55:20,309 --> 00:55:17,520
and become

1538
00:55:22,950 --> 00:55:20,319
the sith lord i was like [\h__\h] yeah man

1539
00:55:24,549 --> 00:55:22,960
yeah you do it you lightsaber that dude

1540
00:55:25,910 --> 00:55:24,559
and try to take an apprentice but now

1541
00:55:27,670 --> 00:55:25,920
here's the thing i don't want to see him

1542
00:55:29,910 --> 00:55:27,680
become good like make that change

1543
00:55:31,349 --> 00:55:29,920
complete i think they will i don't know

1544
00:55:33,670 --> 00:55:31,359
i'm worried they'll be like because

1545
00:55:35,430 --> 00:55:33,680
because like driver is a heartthrob and

1546
00:55:37,030 --> 00:55:35,440
some weird girls universe that they'll

1547
00:55:39,109 --> 00:55:37,040
be like no disney's be like no we gotta

1548
00:55:42,309 --> 00:55:39,119
make them good again guys so the ladies

1549
00:55:44,150 --> 00:55:42,319
will be happy maybe yeah i agree i don't

1550
00:55:45,109 --> 00:55:44,160
i don't think it's gonna hold i think

1551
00:55:46,309 --> 00:55:45,119
there's

1552
00:55:50,150 --> 00:55:46,319
i i

1553
00:55:53,109 --> 00:55:50,160
i just don't have faith in star wars

1554
00:55:55,109 --> 00:55:53,119
not to do the the redemption arc um but

1555
00:55:57,910 --> 00:55:55,119
i want them to right i want him to just

1556
00:56:00,309 --> 00:55:57,920
be [\h__\h] bad like you are a sith lord

1557
00:56:03,510 --> 00:56:00,319
now right i want to see the darth vader

1558
00:56:07,190 --> 00:56:03,520
that we saw in rogue one just like a

1559
00:56:08,150 --> 00:56:07,200
badass terrifying doesn't give a [\h__\h]

1560
00:56:11,270 --> 00:56:08,160
and just

1561
00:56:12,950 --> 00:56:11,280
kills anything in his path

1562
00:56:16,230 --> 00:56:12,960
i mean if you think about it this dude

1563
00:56:19,589 --> 00:56:16,240
has now killed his father and he's also

1564
00:56:21,589 --> 00:56:19,599
killed the sith lord like it doesn't get

1565
00:56:23,190 --> 00:56:21,599
much worse than that and that makes his

1566
00:56:25,109 --> 00:56:23,200
flaw the fact that he's young right

1567
00:56:27,190 --> 00:56:25,119
exactly he's just still young and so

1568
00:56:29,270 --> 00:56:27,200
angry and he hasn't channeled that anger

1569
00:56:31,829 --> 00:56:29,280
in the way that palpatine has or vader

1570
00:56:34,549 --> 00:56:31,839
did in a lot of ways i i will find that

1571
00:56:36,309 --> 00:56:34,559
way more dynamic if if rey has to just

1572
00:56:38,630 --> 00:56:36,319
[\h__\h] off him if she's just like like

1573
00:56:40,549 --> 00:56:38,640
luke says you know i can't save him i

1574
00:56:42,549 --> 00:56:40,559
can't save him like it's and lays even

1575
00:56:43,990 --> 00:56:42,559
like i know and that's what i want like

1576
00:56:46,069 --> 00:56:44,000
follow that [\h__\h] storyline now

1577
00:56:48,230 --> 00:56:46,079
because that would be a great uh i think

1578
00:56:51,589 --> 00:56:48,240
climax with ray and him and like this

1579
00:56:53,589 --> 00:56:51,599
final battle actually being final yeah

1580
00:56:55,190 --> 00:56:53,599
that's fair which one's fair they won't

1581
00:56:56,870 --> 00:56:55,200
do because we know

1582
00:56:58,870 --> 00:56:56,880
not only are we getting one another

1583
00:57:00,870 --> 00:56:58,880
trilogy we're getting another trilogy

1584
00:57:02,549 --> 00:57:00,880
after that they've already said this and

1585
00:57:04,390 --> 00:57:02,559
then we're getting on the off sheets

1586
00:57:06,069 --> 00:57:04,400
daisy ridley said that she's not doing

1587
00:57:08,470 --> 00:57:06,079
past three like she was signed on for

1588
00:57:10,390 --> 00:57:08,480
three and that's her story so i i don't

1589
00:57:12,950 --> 00:57:10,400
i personally think that's the robert

1590
00:57:15,270 --> 00:57:12,960
downey junior movie exactly like maybe

1591
00:57:16,630 --> 00:57:15,280
who knows listen negotiate in public

1592
00:57:18,549 --> 00:57:16,640
yeah i think i think that's just how

1593
00:57:21,270 --> 00:57:18,559
people have to do business

1594
00:57:23,829 --> 00:57:21,280
you know that they will pay big money to

1595
00:57:26,150 --> 00:57:23,839
keep her and they will also change their

1596
00:57:27,670 --> 00:57:26,160
stories to make sure that these

1597
00:57:30,390 --> 00:57:27,680
characters that people seem to really

1598
00:57:31,910 --> 00:57:30,400
like uh continue like exactly it's

1599
00:57:33,829 --> 00:57:31,920
robert downey jr

1600
00:57:35,270 --> 00:57:33,839
until it until they [\h__\h] it up i trust

1601
00:57:36,870 --> 00:57:35,280
him i tell him it's like the marvel

1602
00:57:38,309 --> 00:57:36,880
movies until then i start [\h__\h] it up

1603
00:57:40,950 --> 00:57:38,319
i'm gonna be like you know what you got

1604
00:57:42,390 --> 00:57:40,960
my heart you got my heart star wars same

1605
00:57:43,990 --> 00:57:42,400
sure all right now you want me to talk

1606
00:57:45,349 --> 00:57:44,000
about lucy walker at the end all right

1607
00:57:48,150 --> 00:57:45,359
guys are you gonna let him set you up

1608
00:57:50,470 --> 00:57:48,160
this time so i cried twice i cried twice

1609
00:57:52,470 --> 00:57:50,480
during this movie once was the scroll

1610
00:57:55,030 --> 00:57:52,480
chris when the music comes in and star

1611
00:57:57,990 --> 00:57:55,040
wars shows up i lost it grabbed jane's

1612
00:58:01,030 --> 00:57:58,000
hand and just yeah tear came down and

1613
00:58:03,270 --> 00:58:01,040
then this was the second moment not not

1614
00:58:05,510 --> 00:58:03,280
the lead up to it but the final moment

1615
00:58:07,750 --> 00:58:05,520
when it and we both know what it is

1616
00:58:09,910 --> 00:58:07,760
happens so i was blubbering like a

1617
00:58:11,829 --> 00:58:09,920
little child so nick please take care i

1618
00:58:13,910 --> 00:58:11,839
can't i can't do it this is like my

1619
00:58:16,630 --> 00:58:13,920
superman moment guys like the last time

1620
00:58:18,150 --> 00:58:16,640
um so here's the thing okay there's so

1621
00:58:19,670 --> 00:58:18,160
much that i liked about luke skywalker

1622
00:58:21,750 --> 00:58:19,680
moment and then there's so much that i

1623
00:58:23,750 --> 00:58:21,760
was like really disappointed and liked

1624
00:58:25,510 --> 00:58:23,760
again his moment with leia when he comes

1625
00:58:27,670 --> 00:58:25,520
in and talks to her gorgeous when he

1626
00:58:29,829 --> 00:58:27,680
just shows up and you're like yeah [\h__\h]

1627
00:58:32,309 --> 00:58:29,839
yeah luke skywalker's back [\h__\h]

1628
00:58:34,069 --> 00:58:32,319
dude it was like a perfect silhouette

1629
00:58:35,910 --> 00:58:34,079
shot from return of the jedi it was

1630
00:58:37,030 --> 00:58:35,920
awesome oh and he came back and he

1631
00:58:38,950 --> 00:58:37,040
looked different i'm like you look

1632
00:58:40,870 --> 00:58:38,960
different mr skywalker but i was like

1633
00:58:42,710 --> 00:58:40,880
i'm going with it i'm like you look you

1634
00:58:44,390 --> 00:58:42,720
look thin and ready to do some fighting

1635
00:58:45,270 --> 00:58:44,400
and he goes out and there's a reason for

1636
00:58:47,430 --> 00:58:45,280
that yeah

1637
00:58:49,349 --> 00:58:47,440
yeah oh i know well this this is my

1638
00:58:51,910 --> 00:58:49,359
anyway he goes out and he faces down the

1639
00:58:55,910 --> 00:58:51,920
the eight the the do eighty

1640
00:58:58,390 --> 00:58:55,920
ats t's ats t's atats atats faces down

1641
00:58:59,349 --> 00:58:58,400
new atats and like kylo ren's like fire

1642
00:59:00,789 --> 00:58:59,359
everything

1643
00:59:02,789 --> 00:59:00,799
and you and you just watch this sneak

1644
00:59:03,670 --> 00:59:02,799
walks out and he's just unscathed and

1645
00:59:05,750 --> 00:59:03,680
you're like

1646
00:59:08,150 --> 00:59:05,760
he does the brush of the shoulder i know

1647
00:59:09,829 --> 00:59:08,160
but i had that moment of being like holy

1648
00:59:11,670 --> 00:59:09,839
[\h__\h] because you know he's powerful

1649
00:59:13,349 --> 00:59:11,680
right and you wanted to see how powerful

1650
00:59:15,109 --> 00:59:13,359
is luke really because we have all of

1651
00:59:17,670 --> 00:59:15,119
his backstory we don't know right but

1652
00:59:19,349 --> 00:59:17,680
you sure i led to bleh believe that he

1653
00:59:22,390 --> 00:59:19,359
is a legend beyond just return of the

1654
00:59:24,230 --> 00:59:22,400
jedi he is a legend on you know on a

1655
00:59:26,549 --> 00:59:24,240
scale that is oh my god

1656
00:59:28,390 --> 00:59:26,559
he is so powerful the force that like

1657
00:59:30,230 --> 00:59:28,400
[\h__\h] laser beams can't touch him i

1658
00:59:32,309 --> 00:59:30,240
was like all right it's go time and then

1659
00:59:33,990 --> 00:59:32,319
kylo ren comes down and like the fight

1660
00:59:35,510 --> 00:59:34,000
scene starts right and i'm like oh

1661
00:59:37,510 --> 00:59:35,520
there's the classic stance he's in the

1662
00:59:39,270 --> 00:59:37,520
stance like a little old but he's in the

1663
00:59:40,710 --> 00:59:39,280
stance and you know he does the cool

1664
00:59:42,470 --> 00:59:40,720
dots the lightsaber thing and the cool

1665
00:59:44,069 --> 00:59:42,480
lightsaber swing and then it's over and

1666
00:59:45,349 --> 00:59:44,079
it was like i wanted the yoda moment

1667
00:59:48,309 --> 00:59:45,359
like chris mentioned earlier i wanted

1668
00:59:50,150 --> 00:59:48,319
the like badass [\h__\h] lightsaber fight

1669
00:59:51,670 --> 00:59:50,160
yoda moment with luke skywalker because

1670
00:59:53,109 --> 00:59:51,680
i never really got it because we weren't

1671
00:59:54,549 --> 00:59:53,119
there with return of the jedi yet you

1672
00:59:56,470 --> 00:59:54,559
know we just weren't there

1673
00:59:58,470 --> 00:59:56,480
fight choreography wise

1674
01:00:00,870 --> 00:59:58,480
i will argue that those fight scenes

1675
01:00:03,109 --> 01:00:00,880
with uh vader and luke were better than

1676
01:00:05,829 --> 01:00:03,119
any fight uh the lightsaber fight i've

1677
01:00:07,589 --> 01:00:05,839
seen since agreed oh i i disagree but

1678
01:00:10,069 --> 01:00:07,599
that's because i'm i'm a glutton for

1679
01:00:12,470 --> 01:00:10,079
like action so i want i like a little i

1680
01:00:14,470 --> 01:00:12,480
like it's a little spark sparked up like

1681
01:00:16,950 --> 01:00:14,480
i like the ray lightsaber fight scene

1682
01:00:20,230 --> 01:00:16,960
last film great oh yeah the kybo and

1683
01:00:22,789 --> 01:00:20,240
race lightsaber fight uh with the guards

1684
01:00:24,549 --> 01:00:22,799
in the you know that was the i i think

1685
01:00:26,870 --> 01:00:24,559
the fight choreography in this movie was

1686
01:00:29,030 --> 01:00:26,880
great the lightsaber so do i yeah i'm

1687
01:00:30,870 --> 01:00:29,040
gonna i wish the fight with kylo ren

1688
01:00:32,309 --> 01:00:30,880
luke was a little bit longer does that

1689
01:00:34,309 --> 01:00:32,319
make sense absolutely i would have liked

1690
01:00:36,470 --> 01:00:34,319
a little bit more payoff from it because

1691
01:00:37,990 --> 01:00:36,480
it was so badass but hold on you

1692
01:00:38,950 --> 01:00:38,000
couldn't though right because of what

1693
01:00:40,549 --> 01:00:38,960
happens

1694
01:00:41,910 --> 01:00:40,559
well this is my saying so that that's

1695
01:00:44,230 --> 01:00:41,920
right go

1696
01:00:45,990 --> 01:00:44,240
so um so this fight happens luke does

1697
01:00:47,990 --> 01:00:46,000
the cool lightsaber dodge and like does

1698
01:00:49,589 --> 01:00:48,000
some white super sweeney swings and

1699
01:00:51,030 --> 01:00:49,599
finally kylo ren like you know he turns

1700
01:00:52,789 --> 01:00:51,040
his lightsaber off and you're like oh

1701
01:00:54,150 --> 01:00:52,799
man it's gonna be the obi moment and i'm

1702
01:00:55,990 --> 01:00:54,160
like [\h__\h] man that wasn't long enough

1703
01:00:58,230 --> 01:00:56,000
for the ob moment but okay obi moment i

1704
01:00:59,510 --> 01:00:58,240
knew it was coming and kylo ren like you

1705
01:01:01,190 --> 01:00:59,520
know looks like he's going to slice him

1706
01:01:02,309 --> 01:01:01,200
in half and luke skywalker just turns

1707
01:01:04,950 --> 01:01:02,319
around i'm like

1708
01:01:06,549 --> 01:01:04,960
[\h__\h] you can't even touch him

1709
01:01:07,910 --> 01:01:06,559
yeah and then you realize that he's not

1710
01:01:10,470 --> 01:01:07,920
even really there

1711
01:01:12,470 --> 01:01:10,480
yeah and i was like oh

1712
01:01:15,030 --> 01:01:12,480
oh you didn't like that nick okay so

1713
01:01:15,750 --> 01:01:15,040
this is no good okay go tell you why

1714
01:01:17,430 --> 01:01:15,760
though

1715
01:01:19,349 --> 01:01:17,440
cause i was so this is what and then you

1716
01:01:21,190 --> 01:01:19,359
know then so just to finish it and then

1717
01:01:23,109 --> 01:01:21,200
you see him and you're as he is

1718
01:01:25,430 --> 01:01:23,119
transmitting himself he's so strong with

1719
01:01:27,510 --> 01:01:25,440
the force he's transmitted himself there

1720
01:01:28,950 --> 01:01:27,520
and caused the decoy to save everybody

1721
01:01:30,870 --> 01:01:28,960
to me

1722
01:01:32,230 --> 01:01:30,880
it diminished just how badass it would

1723
01:01:34,150 --> 01:01:32,240
have been had he actually been able to

1724
01:01:36,230 --> 01:01:34,160
stop all the [\h__\h] laser beams i'm a

1725
01:01:37,589 --> 01:01:36,240
simple man and i wanted to actually see

1726
01:01:38,870 --> 01:01:37,599
luke skywalker be there but i thought

1727
01:01:40,549 --> 01:01:38,880
the end moment the skywalker was

1728
01:01:42,870 --> 01:01:40,559
beautiful and i loved that last shot and

1729
01:01:44,470 --> 01:01:42,880
the symbolism of it i just really want

1730
01:01:47,349 --> 01:01:44,480
him to actually be there

1731
01:01:50,710 --> 01:01:47,359
and i mean i i understand like the oh

1732
01:01:53,829 --> 01:01:50,720
yeah aspect of of that sentiment but

1733
01:01:59,349 --> 01:01:56,069
yeah that's the meathead perspective

1734
01:02:02,630 --> 01:01:59,359
because the i mean that lovingly but the

1735
01:02:06,069 --> 01:02:02,640
whole uh concept of the jedi is supposed

1736
01:02:09,190 --> 01:02:06,079
to be pacifism it's the light it's the

1737
01:02:11,030 --> 01:02:09,200
we win without the sword if you use the

1738
01:02:12,309 --> 01:02:11,040
sword that you have and that you hold

1739
01:02:15,190 --> 01:02:12,319
and that you carry with you at all

1740
01:02:17,990 --> 01:02:15,200
moments you turn to the dark side it's

1741
01:02:19,589 --> 01:02:18,000
the moments when you lower your sword

1742
01:02:21,990 --> 01:02:19,599
that you win the battle

1743
01:02:24,710 --> 01:02:22,000
and that is an important i mean that's

1744
01:02:25,589 --> 01:02:24,720
carried through all seven eight movies

1745
01:02:28,230 --> 01:02:25,599
now

1746
01:02:30,069 --> 01:02:28,240
and so you can't have luke skywalker

1747
01:02:32,470 --> 01:02:30,079
show up and beat him with his fists

1748
01:02:35,270 --> 01:02:32,480
because that's how skywalker turns to

1749
01:02:37,910 --> 01:02:35,280
dark side once and for all and instead

1750
01:02:40,549 --> 01:02:37,920
he turns to the light once and for all

1751
01:02:42,630 --> 01:02:40,559
yes chris not only that but i also think

1752
01:02:44,390 --> 01:02:42,640
it would have it just would not have

1753
01:02:47,109 --> 01:02:44,400
come off genuine if

1754
01:02:50,069 --> 01:02:47,119
and i'm talking just you know logistics

1755
01:02:52,069 --> 01:02:50,079
having luke at this age mark hamill i

1756
01:02:54,069 --> 01:02:52,079
should say at this age fighting a young

1757
01:02:55,829 --> 01:02:54,079
kylo ren it just i i don't think it

1758
01:02:58,069 --> 01:02:55,839
would have worked maybe it could have

1759
01:03:00,309 --> 01:02:58,079
and that would have shown how strong

1760
01:03:01,829 --> 01:03:00,319
physically luke skywalker is but chris

1761
01:03:04,549 --> 01:03:01,839
like you say i think what's most

1762
01:03:06,390 --> 01:03:04,559
important is this this idea that this

1763
01:03:08,789 --> 01:03:06,400
writer is giving us glimpses of the

1764
01:03:10,870 --> 01:03:08,799
force we've never seen before and you

1765
01:03:12,390 --> 01:03:10,880
know what that forced projection of

1766
01:03:14,390 --> 01:03:12,400
being able to transmit yourself

1767
01:03:17,029 --> 01:03:14,400
somewhere else i think that was

1768
01:03:19,750 --> 01:03:17,039
incredible and now we know

1769
01:03:22,069 --> 01:03:19,760
more of what these jedi are capable of

1770
01:03:24,470 --> 01:03:22,079
if they reach this level that luke seems

1771
01:03:26,630 --> 01:03:24,480
to have done so yeah i thought it was

1772
01:03:28,549 --> 01:03:26,640
really interesting i see both sides of

1773
01:03:30,390 --> 01:03:28,559
it i did think when he showed up for

1774
01:03:32,789 --> 01:03:30,400
that battle with kylo ren that he's

1775
01:03:35,029 --> 01:03:32,799
looking a little thin a little younger a

1776
01:03:36,710 --> 01:03:35,039
little cgi what's going on he's good

1777
01:03:38,230 --> 01:03:36,720
luke you're looking looking like you oh

1778
01:03:40,549 --> 01:03:38,240
yeah he looks red looks like a good

1779
01:03:42,309 --> 01:03:40,559
looking fella it was weird so right then

1780
01:03:43,109 --> 01:03:42,319
i'm like something's off about this and

1781
01:03:45,829 --> 01:03:43,119
then

1782
01:03:47,109 --> 01:03:45,839
when it's revealed what he did yeah

1783
01:03:48,470 --> 01:03:47,119
i just i just

1784
01:03:49,589 --> 01:03:48,480
i guess my one thing is the one moment

1785
01:03:51,270 --> 01:03:49,599
took away is when the light when the

1786
01:03:53,910 --> 01:03:51,280
lasers hit him like that to me was such

1787
01:03:55,510 --> 01:03:53,920
like a gist i was just like oh

1788
01:03:57,589 --> 01:03:55,520
yeah and i was like oh well he's not

1789
01:03:59,990 --> 01:03:57,599
there but you'll always have that moment

1790
01:04:01,510 --> 01:04:00,000
like you'll have that moment and and at

1791
01:04:03,349 --> 01:04:01,520
the same time like

1792
01:04:05,349 --> 01:04:03,359
he's still an awesome badass for having

1793
01:04:06,950 --> 01:04:05,359
thought of this oh yeah no listen it's

1794
01:04:08,549 --> 01:04:06,960
still i still love miss luke skywalker

1795
01:04:10,069 --> 01:04:08,559
um you know what made me think it was

1796
01:04:11,589 --> 01:04:10,079
off it wasn't his look it was the blue

1797
01:04:13,190 --> 01:04:11,599
lightsaber

1798
01:04:14,549 --> 01:04:13,200
why is that

1799
01:04:15,990 --> 01:04:14,559
because he had a green one in the

1800
01:04:17,270 --> 01:04:16,000
confrontation with kylo ren and he's had

1801
01:04:19,029 --> 01:04:17,280
a green one

1802
01:04:20,470 --> 01:04:19,039
uh as far as we know

1803
01:04:21,990 --> 01:04:20,480
since we turned the jedi and when that

1804
01:04:24,950 --> 01:04:22,000
lightsaber lights up blue i was like why

1805
01:04:29,190 --> 01:04:24,960
is he a blue lightsaber it was obi-wan's

1806
01:04:32,470 --> 01:04:31,510
because he has the green one that breaks

1807
01:04:34,789 --> 01:04:32,480
in the

1808
01:04:36,230 --> 01:04:34,799
battle correct no raise is blue because

1809
01:04:38,870 --> 01:04:36,240
she has luke's

1810
01:04:41,510 --> 01:04:38,880
uh oh we're getting our electricity

1811
01:04:43,589 --> 01:04:41,520
is green so luke's is green from jedi

1812
01:04:45,430 --> 01:04:43,599
and it's green when he goes to

1813
01:04:47,670 --> 01:04:45,440
potentially kill kylo ren but doesn't

1814
01:04:50,230 --> 01:04:47,680
it's his green lightsaber from jedi when

1815
01:04:52,390 --> 01:04:50,240
he unveils and lights up his lightsaber

1816
01:04:57,910 --> 01:04:52,400
in the in the last fight

1817
01:05:02,630 --> 01:05:00,549
that's the lightsaber that ray got from

1818
01:05:04,470 --> 01:05:02,640
the uh it wasn't it from like the the

1819
01:05:07,510 --> 01:05:04,480
temple or whatever

1820
01:05:09,430 --> 01:05:07,520
yeah which was ben's which was

1821
01:05:11,270 --> 01:05:09,440
but i thought ray had luke's lightsaber

1822
01:05:13,270 --> 01:05:11,280
that gets snapped

1823
01:05:14,390 --> 01:05:13,280
when she's fighting with kylo when

1824
01:05:16,230 --> 01:05:14,400
they're when they're pulling the force

1825
01:05:18,390 --> 01:05:16,240
and it it shatters

1826
01:05:20,309 --> 01:05:18,400
if there are any larger star wars nerds

1827
01:05:21,910 --> 01:05:20,319
than we are please write into swing work

1828
01:05:23,510 --> 01:05:21,920
in the sky

1829
01:05:24,390 --> 01:05:23,520
are they [\h__\h] using in that movie

1830
01:05:26,069 --> 01:05:24,400
anyway

1831
01:05:28,150 --> 01:05:26,079
i'm getting it all mixed up now yeah all

1832
01:05:30,150 --> 01:05:28,160
i know is that is confusing nick i get

1833
01:05:31,829 --> 01:05:30,160
that but i did but i did like i mean

1834
01:05:33,190 --> 01:05:31,839
listen i but i thought the end in his

1835
01:05:35,750 --> 01:05:33,200
moment of

1836
01:05:37,510 --> 01:05:35,760
his his death was beautiful and like the

1837
01:05:39,190 --> 01:05:37,520
silhouette of the two sons again like

1838
01:05:40,630 --> 01:05:39,200
the close-up

1839
01:05:41,829 --> 01:05:40,640
the full like

1840
01:05:43,190 --> 01:05:41,839
coming out though

1841
01:05:44,470 --> 01:05:43,200
speaking that this is why i don't think

1842
01:05:45,750 --> 01:05:44,480
he's coming back guys i would love him

1843
01:05:47,349 --> 01:05:45,760
to come back let me just be clear i

1844
01:05:49,670 --> 01:05:47,359
would love some ghost luke like we got

1845
01:05:51,270 --> 01:05:49,680
some ghost yoda okay but carrie i mean

1846
01:05:54,870 --> 01:05:51,280
princess leia says

1847
01:05:56,549 --> 01:05:54,880
he's gone i felt his presence leave and

1848
01:05:57,990 --> 01:05:56,559
i think yeah no that's not one thing to

1849
01:05:59,829 --> 01:05:58,000
mention that she's like

1850
01:06:01,430 --> 01:05:59,839
that he she can't feel him at all

1851
01:06:04,789 --> 01:06:01,440
anymore and so i think it means that

1852
01:06:06,150 --> 01:06:04,799
he's so he's he's not he's not

1853
01:06:08,710 --> 01:06:06,160
yoda or

1854
01:06:10,710 --> 01:06:08,720
or obi-wan he is i think you're going

1855
01:06:11,829 --> 01:06:10,720
too far with that statement i i think so

1856
01:06:13,029 --> 01:06:11,839
too

1857
01:06:15,109 --> 01:06:13,039
i think you're i think you're taking

1858
01:06:17,109 --> 01:06:15,119
that line a little too i think it was

1859
01:06:18,870 --> 01:06:17,119
too broadly i think we'll see a fuzzy

1860
01:06:20,230 --> 01:06:18,880
blue luke in the future

1861
01:06:21,670 --> 01:06:20,240
i would love a fuzzy blue luke but i'm

1862
01:06:23,829 --> 01:06:21,680
just saying guys if there's not a fuzzy

1863
01:06:26,309 --> 01:06:23,839
blue luke in a year and a half now

1864
01:06:28,150 --> 01:06:26,319
listen so here's the thing close that

1865
01:06:30,470 --> 01:06:28,160
line so everyone was under the

1866
01:06:32,549 --> 01:06:30,480
assumption that princess leia was going

1867
01:06:35,029 --> 01:06:32,559
to die in this movie we have lost carrie

1868
01:06:37,750 --> 01:06:35,039
fisher disney has made it very clear

1869
01:06:40,630 --> 01:06:37,760
they will not do a cgi version of her in

1870
01:06:43,349 --> 01:06:40,640
the next film again this movie was

1871
01:06:45,990 --> 01:06:43,359
finished filming before she passed away

1872
01:06:48,150 --> 01:06:46,000
so the plan was that she was going to be

1873
01:06:49,670 --> 01:06:48,160
an integral part of this next film my

1874
01:06:51,190 --> 01:06:49,680
question to you guys is how do you think

1875
01:06:53,109 --> 01:06:51,200
they're going to cover this

1876
01:06:54,950 --> 01:06:53,119
i hope it's not some half-assed like

1877
01:06:56,309 --> 01:06:54,960
just oh she died

1878
01:06:57,750 --> 01:06:56,319
i that's exactly what i think it's going

1879
01:06:59,750 --> 01:06:57,760
to be i think it's going to be

1880
01:07:01,190 --> 01:06:59,760
the scroll that sets up sets up whatever

1881
01:07:03,270 --> 01:07:01,200
is going on because here's the thing

1882
01:07:04,870 --> 01:07:03,280
that this film we don't really get the

1883
01:07:06,789 --> 01:07:04,880
next act we get an idea that there's

1884
01:07:09,349 --> 01:07:06,799
some rebellion left ray has embraced the

1885
01:07:10,950 --> 01:07:09,359
jedi and that ren is now the first order

1886
01:07:12,870 --> 01:07:10,960
right he's in charge of the first order

1887
01:07:14,309 --> 01:07:12,880
yeah but everything's in tatters so i

1888
01:07:15,910 --> 01:07:14,319
think it very well could be the

1889
01:07:17,589 --> 01:07:15,920
motivation for whatever happens in the

1890
01:07:19,829 --> 01:07:17,599
next film and they had to rework that

1891
01:07:21,190 --> 01:07:19,839
third film that her death is going to

1892
01:07:23,190 --> 01:07:21,200
spurs a

1893
01:07:24,789 --> 01:07:23,200
rebirth in the rebellion maybe like the

1894
01:07:27,750 --> 01:07:24,799
thing that really like

1895
01:07:29,670 --> 01:07:27,760
sparks again is is her death yeah i

1896
01:07:32,230 --> 01:07:29,680
think two things are possible i think

1897
01:07:33,430 --> 01:07:32,240
the first one which would really suck

1898
01:07:36,470 --> 01:07:33,440
is that

1899
01:07:38,230 --> 01:07:36,480
after the scroll you pan down to a ship

1900
01:07:40,309 --> 01:07:38,240
you see a silhouette in the chair that's

1901
01:07:42,789 --> 01:07:40,319
supposed to be leia and kylo ren

1902
01:07:43,910 --> 01:07:42,799
destroying the ship that that would be

1903
01:07:45,750 --> 01:07:43,920
awful

1904
01:07:47,190 --> 01:07:45,760
i think hopefully the thing that's more

1905
01:07:49,670 --> 01:07:47,200
likely

1906
01:07:52,950 --> 01:07:49,680
is that they do a jump in time

1907
01:07:54,549 --> 01:07:52,960
they all those kids who were

1908
01:07:56,150 --> 01:07:54,559
encouraged or

1909
01:07:57,349 --> 01:07:56,160
motivated to become part of the

1910
01:08:00,309 --> 01:07:57,359
rebellion

1911
01:08:03,430 --> 01:08:00,319
are aging some of them have joined rey

1912
01:08:05,109 --> 01:08:03,440
as disciples uh whatever their jedi

1913
01:08:07,349 --> 01:08:05,119
children what younglings

1914
01:08:08,870 --> 01:08:07,359
padawans padawans whatever the hell they

1915
01:08:11,190 --> 01:08:08,880
called them in the

1916
01:08:11,990 --> 01:08:11,200
in the the prequels they killed the

1917
01:08:14,069 --> 01:08:12,000
young

1918
01:08:16,390 --> 01:08:14,079
[\h__\h] yeah they're the only the babies

1919
01:08:19,189 --> 01:08:16,400
so anyway they like those those kids

1920
01:08:20,950 --> 01:08:19,199
have are being trained by rey

1921
01:08:22,789 --> 01:08:20,960
and we're starting to see the grand

1922
01:08:25,829 --> 01:08:22,799
battle that never was

1923
01:08:28,070 --> 01:08:25,839
and somewhere in that maybe uh princess

1924
01:08:30,789 --> 01:08:28,080
leia or general leia

1925
01:08:32,470 --> 01:08:30,799
slowly passes in her sleep i think that

1926
01:08:33,990 --> 01:08:32,480
would be a nice beautiful touching

1927
01:08:35,189 --> 01:08:34,000
moment i don't think that's what we're

1928
01:08:36,789 --> 01:08:35,199
gonna get i think we'll probably get

1929
01:08:39,030 --> 01:08:36,799
something between the two

1930
01:08:40,550 --> 01:08:39,040
but i think that's how it should go

1931
01:08:41,829 --> 01:08:40,560
i like yeah i hope she could i hope she

1932
01:08:44,309 --> 01:08:41,839
gets a send-off i hope she gets an

1933
01:08:45,430 --> 01:08:44,319
actual send-off one way or another but

1934
01:08:46,870 --> 01:08:45,440
it is sad like it's one of those things

1935
01:08:47,829 --> 01:08:46,880
like man i wish we would have seen what

1936
01:08:49,430 --> 01:08:47,839
leia

1937
01:08:51,030 --> 01:08:49,440
where that would have gone because if i

1938
01:08:53,189 --> 01:08:51,040
think if there was a redemption story to

1939
01:08:55,189 --> 01:08:53,199
be told for kylo ren it would be through

1940
01:08:56,630 --> 01:08:55,199
leia but i think now that leia is gone i

1941
01:08:57,669 --> 01:08:56,640
think that that should be

1942
01:08:59,749 --> 01:08:57,679
and she's the one that doesn't get the

1943
01:09:01,829 --> 01:08:59,759
send-off right like all of our original

1944
01:09:03,510 --> 01:09:01,839
people got send-offs yeah yeah really

1945
01:09:04,550 --> 01:09:03,520
lovely ways i mean i told chris the

1946
01:09:06,789 --> 01:09:04,560
other day

1947
01:09:08,309 --> 01:09:06,799
han getting killed in force awakens

1948
01:09:10,789 --> 01:09:08,319
maybe it's because i have a son i just

1949
01:09:13,829 --> 01:09:10,799
like i watch him like he touched his

1950
01:09:19,030 --> 01:09:17,189
i get it man i think i'm i i was in such

1951
01:09:20,789 --> 01:09:19,040
shock because it was the first time we

1952
01:09:23,749 --> 01:09:20,799
saw one of our

1953
01:09:26,550 --> 01:09:23,759
beloved characters from the originals

1954
01:09:28,550 --> 01:09:26,560
gone gone forever i mean i i had called

1955
01:09:31,349 --> 01:09:28,560
it months before and so i think

1956
01:09:32,870 --> 01:09:31,359
everybody i knew but oh it still got me

1957
01:09:35,349 --> 01:09:32,880
as soon as he walked down there i was

1958
01:09:36,709 --> 01:09:35,359
like and he's dead all right he's dead i

1959
01:09:38,630 --> 01:09:36,719
mean

1960
01:09:40,630 --> 01:09:38,640
when you were there watching that force

1961
01:09:42,309 --> 01:09:40,640
awakens and you see that long shot of

1962
01:09:44,550 --> 01:09:42,319
him going down the bridge i'm like oh

1963
01:09:46,309 --> 01:09:44,560
this is not going to end well

1964
01:09:47,110 --> 01:09:46,319
yeah but it still gets me man it's still

1965
01:09:48,390 --> 01:09:47,120
like

1966
01:09:51,030 --> 01:09:48,400
you know that was something that came up

1967
01:09:52,630 --> 01:09:51,040
i was i was talking to sarah and not

1968
01:09:54,310 --> 01:09:52,640
weird she's like did you like it and i

1969
01:09:55,830 --> 01:09:54,320
was like you know yeah i did and she's

1970
01:09:56,630 --> 01:09:55,840
like you don't sound sure i was like you

1971
01:09:58,470 --> 01:09:56,640
know

1972
01:09:59,750 --> 01:09:58,480
no no except i didn't like it um and i

1973
01:10:00,709 --> 01:09:59,760
was trying to express to it without like

1974
01:10:02,149 --> 01:10:00,719
ruining anything so i ended up

1975
01:10:04,149 --> 01:10:02,159
expressing it to my brother because he

1976
01:10:06,390 --> 01:10:04,159
had seen i was like it's really

1977
01:10:09,030 --> 01:10:06,400
sad in a way for me to see all of these

1978
01:10:10,470 --> 01:10:09,040
old characters come to an end even if

1979
01:10:11,750 --> 01:10:10,480
they are in beautiful ways like and i

1980
01:10:13,430 --> 01:10:11,760
get it and i like that there's a new

1981
01:10:15,270 --> 01:10:13,440
story and new

1982
01:10:16,550 --> 01:10:15,280
blood and new adventure and a new saga

1983
01:10:18,950 --> 01:10:16,560
but like there's that little part of me

1984
01:10:20,709 --> 01:10:18,960
that's kind of like man it took so long

1985
01:10:22,310 --> 01:10:20,719
to get these movies and there's so much

1986
01:10:24,550 --> 01:10:22,320
story that wasn't told around these

1987
01:10:26,550 --> 01:10:24,560
people's lives and like i'm gonna miss

1988
01:10:27,830 --> 01:10:26,560
them like it's like part of my childhood

1989
01:10:29,430 --> 01:10:27,840
it's like when you let something go from

1990
01:10:30,790 --> 01:10:29,440
your childhood and you're like like you

1991
01:10:33,350 --> 01:10:30,800
put those action figures away for the

1992
01:10:35,430 --> 01:10:33,360
last time you're like all right

1993
01:10:36,790 --> 01:10:35,440
yeah yeah i'll see you later and i just

1994
01:10:38,390 --> 01:10:36,800
so whenever i watch these movies i have

1995
01:10:39,669 --> 01:10:38,400
this and when luke died that was kind of

1996
01:10:42,390 --> 01:10:39,679
the moment of like

1997
01:10:45,910 --> 01:10:42,400
yeah that's done that that is it's it's

1998
01:10:47,669 --> 01:10:45,920
dunzo and i was sad not in like a like

1999
01:10:49,030 --> 01:10:47,679
in a part of my childhood was like well

2000
01:10:55,030 --> 01:10:49,040
there you go

2001
01:10:58,149 --> 01:10:55,040
you killed it yep sure you killed it i

2002
01:11:00,470 --> 01:10:58,159
which i think is it was bound to happen

2003
01:11:02,310 --> 01:11:00,480
guys i mean i didn't i didn't expect any

2004
01:11:04,310 --> 01:11:02,320
of our original characters to go past

2005
01:11:06,070 --> 01:11:04,320
force awakens when i heard that they

2006
01:11:08,950 --> 01:11:06,080
were going to be in it i was like that's

2007
01:11:11,030 --> 01:11:08,960
nice it's like a good cool homage and

2008
01:11:14,550 --> 01:11:11,040
send-off for these characters they are

2009
01:11:16,950 --> 01:11:14,560
integral parts of this trilogy and yeah

2010
01:11:19,030 --> 01:11:16,960
i i enjoy that they're or i should say i

2011
01:11:21,110 --> 01:11:19,040
respect that they're taking their time

2012
01:11:23,430 --> 01:11:21,120
and actually making them a part of this

2013
01:11:26,070 --> 01:11:23,440
like yeah i agree they're passing on

2014
01:11:28,470 --> 01:11:26,080
both the really dark side of these

2015
01:11:31,189 --> 01:11:28,480
characters and the really light side and

2016
01:11:32,950 --> 01:11:31,199
i think that's that's great i'm i don't

2017
01:11:34,229 --> 01:11:32,960
know about you guys i'm excited for

2018
01:11:36,709 --> 01:11:34,239
whatever

2019
01:11:39,270 --> 01:11:36,719
star wars pumps out at this point like

2020
01:11:40,470 --> 01:11:39,280
take my money well the other thing is

2021
01:11:42,149 --> 01:11:40,480
the new movie's gonna like i feel like

2022
01:11:43,750 --> 01:11:42,159
this next this what are we at nine is

2023
01:11:45,270 --> 01:11:43,760
that cause it's gonna be nine seven

2024
01:11:46,790 --> 01:11:45,280
eight nine the newest one three four

2025
01:11:48,870 --> 01:11:46,800
five six five the final of this level

2026
01:11:50,550 --> 01:11:48,880
yeah yep yep yep i feel like this it

2027
01:11:52,630 --> 01:11:50,560
really set up for like it's it's a brand

2028
01:11:54,310 --> 01:11:52,640
new day now like it's it is time for

2029
01:11:56,390 --> 01:11:54,320
these characters to come into their own

2030
01:11:57,910 --> 01:11:56,400
and own this story because it's now

2031
01:12:00,070 --> 01:11:57,920
theirs like i feel like that passing of

2032
01:12:02,229 --> 01:12:00,080
luke was like okay

2033
01:12:03,510 --> 01:12:02,239
it's yours now yeah so where you go it

2034
01:12:05,510 --> 01:12:03,520
is like someone's i brought a great

2035
01:12:07,430 --> 01:12:05,520
quote was like it is a new hope right

2036
01:12:09,350 --> 01:12:07,440
and that's why it was okay with this

2037
01:12:10,630 --> 01:12:09,360
movie not being as dark as empire

2038
01:12:12,470 --> 01:12:10,640
because

2039
01:12:14,709 --> 01:12:12,480
i think chris you said it's not empire

2040
01:12:16,390 --> 01:12:14,719
and it shouldn't be in a lot of ways oh

2041
01:12:18,149 --> 01:12:16,400
i was just gonna say because if that

2042
01:12:20,149 --> 01:12:18,159
were the case nick like

2043
01:12:22,790 --> 01:12:20,159
i think you make a good point that we

2044
01:12:26,310 --> 01:12:22,800
don't want to see a recycled trilogy we

2045
01:12:29,110 --> 01:12:26,320
don't want to see the same arc play out

2046
01:12:31,590 --> 01:12:29,120
we do want to see that at some point

2047
01:12:35,030 --> 01:12:31,600
this galaxy will be

2048
01:12:38,310 --> 01:12:35,040
free and equal for everyone that the

2049
01:12:41,350 --> 01:12:38,320
resistance will have won um everyone can

2050
01:12:43,910 --> 01:12:41,360
live in peace and the true

2051
01:12:47,030 --> 01:12:43,920
meaning for the force is finally like

2052
01:12:49,270 --> 01:12:47,040
revealed i guess in a way we don't we

2053
01:12:52,229 --> 01:12:49,280
don't want to see this play out again

2054
01:12:55,910 --> 01:12:52,239
and again and again with a new villain a

2055
01:12:57,430 --> 01:12:55,920
new resistance a new battle

2056
01:12:59,030 --> 01:12:57,440
it will it will there's always gonna be

2057
01:13:01,430 --> 01:12:59,040
like a jedi and a jedi but you know i

2058
01:13:02,790 --> 01:13:01,440
think you're right like it it's just

2059
01:13:04,229 --> 01:13:02,800
i don't know it's nice to see like it's

2060
01:13:06,310 --> 01:13:04,239
a new thing i feel like when ray opens

2061
01:13:07,990 --> 01:13:06,320
those doors you're like it is a new it's

2062
01:13:09,669 --> 01:13:08,000
a new movie in a lot of ways but still a

2063
01:13:11,350 --> 01:13:09,679
lot of homage to the old trilogies which

2064
01:13:13,830 --> 01:13:11,360
i like right they still they still get

2065
01:13:15,350 --> 01:13:13,840
like [\h__\h] yoda showing up guys

2066
01:13:17,830 --> 01:13:15,360
i was just like

2067
01:13:20,310 --> 01:13:17,840
like i just slow clapped slow clapping

2068
01:13:22,550 --> 01:13:20,320
theater dude so yoda

2069
01:13:25,189 --> 01:13:22,560
took lightning from the sky like thor

2070
01:13:26,790 --> 01:13:25,199
and blew up a jedi temple with the

2071
01:13:29,189 --> 01:13:26,800
scepter

2072
01:13:30,470 --> 01:13:29,199
but the books did you read them well

2073
01:13:33,590 --> 01:13:30,480
real parade experience weren't they i

2074
01:13:35,830 --> 01:13:33,600
was like

2075
01:13:39,189 --> 01:13:35,840
yeah that was pretty awesome

2076
01:13:40,950 --> 01:13:39,199
but but before we go any further uh ray

2077
01:13:42,870 --> 01:13:40,960
took those books did anyone notice that

2078
01:13:44,870 --> 01:13:42,880
she smuggled them

2079
01:13:47,189 --> 01:13:44,880
i did not notice that she smuggled the

2080
01:13:49,750 --> 01:13:47,199
jedi books out so clearly i think that

2081
01:13:52,310 --> 01:13:49,760
proves that she is not done and she

2082
01:13:54,950 --> 01:13:52,320
wants to learn more about the jedi as

2083
01:13:56,870 --> 01:13:54,960
her powers increase and she is

2084
01:13:58,630 --> 01:13:56,880
continuing with this you know this

2085
01:14:00,870 --> 01:13:58,640
journey she wants to learn about the

2086
01:14:04,070 --> 01:14:00,880
past which could be not a good thing

2087
01:14:06,070 --> 01:14:04,080
like we said let the past die oh man you

2088
01:14:09,110 --> 01:14:06,080
you guys are so smart

2089
01:14:11,510 --> 01:14:09,120
so my question to you all in the spirit

2090
01:14:14,149 --> 01:14:11,520
of the new group as you're saying this

2091
01:14:16,310 --> 01:14:14,159
is this isn't the old character story

2092
01:14:18,310 --> 01:14:16,320
anymore this is the new uh the do

2093
01:14:20,870 --> 01:14:18,320
character story and so

2094
01:14:23,510 --> 01:14:20,880
i want to ask you about your thoughts on

2095
01:14:25,189 --> 01:14:23,520
the uh the increasing diversity in the

2096
01:14:28,070 --> 01:14:25,199
star wars universe

2097
01:14:30,149 --> 01:14:28,080
i [\h__\h] love it it's amazing i mean we

2098
01:14:32,070 --> 01:14:30,159
we've brought up a few times tonight

2099
01:14:33,990 --> 01:14:32,080
like the sort of the messages that these

2100
01:14:36,390 --> 01:14:34,000
new movies are sending i think this one

2101
01:14:39,110 --> 01:14:36,400
had a lot to do with they bring it up a

2102
01:14:41,350 --> 01:14:39,120
few times that like war is

2103
01:14:43,430 --> 01:14:41,360
inevitable it's always going to be here

2104
01:14:46,310 --> 01:14:43,440
and it's for one reason only and that's

2105
01:14:49,030 --> 01:14:46,320
money and power um that was interesting

2106
01:14:52,070 --> 01:14:49,040
we got a huge like animal rights message

2107
01:14:55,270 --> 01:14:52,080
throughout this movie oh vegan chewbacca

2108
01:14:57,669 --> 01:14:55,280
vegan chewbacca and like in even like

2109
01:14:59,510 --> 01:14:57,679
saving those you know those

2110
01:15:02,310 --> 01:14:59,520
race things on the planet with the

2111
01:15:05,270 --> 01:15:02,320
casino the dog horses yeah the dog horse

2112
01:15:07,590 --> 01:15:05,280
thingies really cool messages but yes we

2113
01:15:10,149 --> 01:15:07,600
do have an extremely diverse cast uh

2114
01:15:13,189 --> 01:15:10,159
across the rainbow spectrum which i

2115
01:15:15,669 --> 01:15:13,199
think is incredible and like you said

2116
01:15:19,430 --> 01:15:15,679
chris like this is a new story it is a

2117
01:15:20,790 --> 01:15:19,440
new star wars so many young kids who are

2118
01:15:24,070 --> 01:15:20,800
not white

2119
01:15:29,030 --> 01:15:24,080
are going to now see that like i could

2120
01:15:31,910 --> 01:15:29,040
be a jedi i could be in this epic galaxy

2121
01:15:34,310 --> 01:15:31,920
story have you seen a non-white jedi yet

2122
01:15:36,070 --> 01:15:34,320
samuel l jackson

2123
01:15:38,470 --> 01:15:36,080
so i'm sorry go ahead i didn't mean to

2124
01:15:40,709 --> 01:15:38,480
cut you off ryan no no that's a good

2125
01:15:44,310 --> 01:15:40,719
point like no

2126
01:15:46,790 --> 01:15:44,320
i have i i have very painful thoughts

2127
01:15:47,990 --> 01:15:46,800
about this issue because i think it's an

2128
01:15:50,470 --> 01:15:48,000
amazing thing that they're trying to

2129
01:15:52,470 --> 01:15:50,480
diversify star wars i mean this is one

2130
01:15:53,669 --> 01:15:52,480
of the most popular franchises of

2131
01:15:56,149 --> 01:15:53,679
history

2132
01:15:59,510 --> 01:15:56,159
but in doing so they're creating a

2133
01:16:02,149 --> 01:15:59,520
really awkward situation where they're

2134
01:16:04,630 --> 01:16:02,159
really creating more and more a white

2135
01:16:05,669 --> 01:16:04,640
savior trope in star wars

2136
01:16:08,390 --> 01:16:05,679
this

2137
01:16:10,550 --> 01:16:08,400
every single i mean the jedi have always

2138
01:16:13,430 --> 01:16:10,560
been an allegory for christianity and

2139
01:16:14,870 --> 01:16:13,440
the christ figure being luke skywalker

2140
01:16:16,709 --> 01:16:14,880
or whoever

2141
01:16:18,550 --> 01:16:16,719
and so now what they're doing is it

2142
01:16:20,790 --> 01:16:18,560
seems like they're saying okay all of

2143
01:16:23,350 --> 01:16:20,800
these sub characters are going to be

2144
01:16:25,830 --> 01:16:23,360
incredibly incredibly diverse but when

2145
01:16:27,510 --> 01:16:25,840
you gotta have somebody fight a jedi you

2146
01:16:30,070 --> 01:16:27,520
gotta get down to it and you gotta be

2147
01:16:31,910 --> 01:16:30,080
the savior we want a white person there

2148
01:16:34,709 --> 01:16:31,920
and not just a white person a white

2149
01:16:36,630 --> 01:16:34,719
person with a british accent

2150
01:16:37,590 --> 01:16:36,640
it doesn't get much more white than that

2151
01:16:39,110 --> 01:16:37,600
i think there's two things i think

2152
01:16:40,709 --> 01:16:39,120
you're right chris but i'm wondering as

2153
01:16:42,390 --> 01:16:40,719
we move past this next trilogy as they

2154
01:16:44,149 --> 01:16:42,400
diversify more and more if that's

2155
01:16:45,830 --> 01:16:44,159
eventually going to change that like you

2156
01:16:47,910 --> 01:16:45,840
like ryan you said or christian and i've

2157
01:16:49,910 --> 01:16:47,920
said it like it's disney it's baby steps

2158
01:16:51,030 --> 01:16:49,920
like as much as that sucks and they need

2159
01:16:52,470 --> 01:16:51,040
to like

2160
01:16:53,910 --> 01:16:52,480
not you know it was like spider-man like

2161
01:16:56,470 --> 01:16:53,920
spider-man couldn't be miles morales

2162
01:16:58,950 --> 01:16:56,480
like there was no way that was happening

2163
01:17:00,870 --> 01:16:58,960
so that was sony though disney wanted

2164
01:17:02,870 --> 01:17:00,880
miles morales yeah but it's still the

2165
01:17:05,350 --> 01:17:02,880
same idea right even i'm saying like

2166
01:17:06,950 --> 01:17:05,360
sony was like can't do that so i think

2167
01:17:08,070 --> 01:17:06,960
we'll see it diversify more and more

2168
01:17:09,270 --> 01:17:08,080
especially if they're doing more

2169
01:17:10,550 --> 01:17:09,280
trilogies

2170
01:17:13,110 --> 01:17:10,560
here i think you're gonna see that start

2171
01:17:15,669 --> 01:17:13,120
to change i hope i think so what i think

2172
01:17:18,149 --> 01:17:15,679
is interesting too is now we know

2173
01:17:20,630 --> 01:17:18,159
you know with rey and with what yoda and

2174
01:17:24,070 --> 01:17:20,640
luke have come to learn and preach is

2175
01:17:25,830 --> 01:17:24,080
that anyone can be can be a jedi anyone

2176
01:17:26,550 --> 01:17:25,840
can use the force it's just harnessing

2177
01:17:28,790 --> 01:17:26,560
it

2178
01:17:31,430 --> 01:17:28,800
my hope my biggest hope for this

2179
01:17:34,870 --> 01:17:31,440
franchise is that john boyega is going

2180
01:17:37,189 --> 01:17:34,880
to get his time and we we saw him handle

2181
01:17:39,430 --> 01:17:37,199
a lightsaber and force awakens i thought

2182
01:17:41,910 --> 01:17:39,440
it was amazing he was going to become

2183
01:17:43,270 --> 01:17:41,920
the next guy maybe we will see that

2184
01:17:44,390 --> 01:17:43,280
twist there wasn't like well because

2185
01:17:46,070 --> 01:17:44,400
that right the force awakens it's going

2186
01:17:47,910 --> 01:17:46,080
to be john he's going to be the one no

2187
01:17:49,910 --> 01:17:47,920
it's the it's the lady it's the lady

2188
01:17:51,910 --> 01:17:49,920
it's the white lady which again

2189
01:17:53,910 --> 01:17:51,920
it's a lady but it's a lady man it is a

2190
01:17:55,990 --> 01:17:53,920
lady who's doing some badass [\h__\h] with a

2191
01:17:58,070 --> 01:17:56,000
lightsaber yep no and i am i mean

2192
01:17:59,750 --> 01:17:58,080
there's an argument there's a an

2193
01:18:02,390 --> 01:17:59,760
argument here about white feminism and

2194
01:18:04,390 --> 01:18:02,400
yada yada i'm not gonna make it but

2195
01:18:07,189 --> 01:18:04,400
no i think there's uh you're right it

2196
01:18:09,270 --> 01:18:07,199
was it's i love seeing finn i love poe i

2197
01:18:11,990 --> 01:18:09,280
love that all of these characters are

2198
01:18:15,910 --> 01:18:12,000
diverse multicultural and that they're

2199
01:18:17,430 --> 01:18:15,920
all portrayed in loving ways um that was

2200
01:18:19,030 --> 01:18:17,440
just one of those things that jumped out

2201
01:18:22,790 --> 01:18:19,040
at me when i started thinking about it

2202
01:18:25,189 --> 01:18:22,800
today no yes completely understood right

2203
01:18:26,550 --> 01:18:25,199
yeah the more you think about it yeah

2204
01:18:27,910 --> 01:18:26,560
and that's a problem we have with these

2205
01:18:29,189 --> 01:18:27,920
movies i mean like even in the comic

2206
01:18:30,709 --> 01:18:29,199
book movies right like it's still an

2207
01:18:31,990 --> 01:18:30,719
ongoing problem i think it's slowly

2208
01:18:34,149 --> 01:18:32,000
being

2209
01:18:35,510 --> 01:18:34,159
addressed and you know like again [\h__\h]

2210
01:18:37,110 --> 01:18:35,520
the people who have backlash to it but

2211
01:18:38,390 --> 01:18:37,120
that's probably why they move so slow as

2212
01:18:40,790 --> 01:18:38,400
they're like whoa

2213
01:18:41,590 --> 01:18:40,800
gotta watch out for the backlash from

2214
01:18:44,790 --> 01:18:41,600
right

2215
01:18:46,709 --> 01:18:44,800
stoopies but i think again like we're

2216
01:18:48,950 --> 01:18:46,719
getting closer and closer and they're

2217
01:18:53,110 --> 01:18:48,960
willing to take chances with you know

2218
01:18:56,310 --> 01:18:53,120
this this rhian ryan rhian rowan rin guy

2219
01:18:58,070 --> 01:18:56,320
um mr johnson mr johnson let's just go

2220
01:19:00,229 --> 01:18:58,080
with that um they're willing to take a

2221
01:19:02,149 --> 01:19:00,239
chance and have someone challenge

2222
01:19:04,790 --> 01:19:02,159
everything we thought we knew about star

2223
01:19:08,070 --> 01:19:04,800
wars uh we see this you know we're

2224
01:19:10,070 --> 01:19:08,080
finally getting a black panther movie so

2225
01:19:13,830 --> 01:19:10,080
we're moving in the right direction with

2226
01:19:16,470 --> 01:19:13,840
marvel with disney and hopefully

2227
01:19:19,669 --> 01:19:16,480
in our lifetime we will see

2228
01:19:22,470 --> 01:19:19,679
a minority hopefully a minority female

2229
01:19:25,030 --> 01:19:22,480
up there as the prime you know

2230
01:19:27,270 --> 01:19:25,040
reason that this entire star wars saga

2231
01:19:28,870 --> 01:19:27,280
has gone on for centuries

2232
01:19:30,550 --> 01:19:28,880
i think rogue one was a good step in

2233
01:19:31,830 --> 01:19:30,560
that direction with uh the main actor

2234
01:19:33,430 --> 01:19:31,840
from that i know it was still like a

2235
01:19:36,149 --> 01:19:33,440
female lead which is still great but he

2236
01:19:37,990 --> 01:19:36,159
was really especially have him not be

2237
01:19:41,430 --> 01:19:38,000
the english dialect like chris said it

2238
01:19:44,149 --> 01:19:41,440
was you know a guy with a latino latinx

2239
01:19:45,350 --> 01:19:44,159
dialect and i thought that was cool an

2240
01:19:46,630 --> 01:19:45,360
interesting point though about the the

2241
01:19:48,390 --> 01:19:46,640
burst dialect is that this theme

2242
01:19:50,790 --> 01:19:48,400
throughout star wars with like higher

2243
01:19:53,350 --> 01:19:50,800
class lower class stuff too

2244
01:19:55,830 --> 01:19:53,360
oh sure no my point is simply the whole

2245
01:19:58,149 --> 01:19:55,840
you know colonization thing yeah yeah

2246
01:19:59,669 --> 01:19:58,159
yeah yeah i know you're totally right

2247
01:20:02,310 --> 01:19:59,679
it's like the least fighty episode we've

2248
01:20:03,830 --> 01:20:02,320
ever had guys i think so well one thing

2249
01:20:06,870 --> 01:20:03,840
we did not mention before we wrap up

2250
01:20:11,430 --> 01:20:06,880
here gentlemen bibi hate i love me some

2251
01:20:15,910 --> 01:20:13,830
the whole the bad one yeah that's my

2252
01:20:17,510 --> 01:20:15,920
point man like this is the last one the

2253
01:20:21,030 --> 01:20:17,520
last movie too though right i don't

2254
01:20:23,430 --> 01:20:21,040
think so no there's only good bb-8 yeah

2255
01:20:25,990 --> 01:20:23,440
so we were promised just like the porgs

2256
01:20:28,390 --> 01:20:26,000
that this bb hate was going to be some

2257
01:20:31,030 --> 01:20:28,400
like integral part of the story and it

2258
01:20:33,030 --> 01:20:31,040
didn't pan out that way exactly i think

2259
01:20:34,149 --> 01:20:33,040
it it turned and looked at bb-8 with

2260
01:20:37,030 --> 01:20:34,159
some like

2261
01:20:38,630 --> 01:20:37,040
some robotic glaring eye and that was

2262
01:20:39,750 --> 01:20:38,640
about all we got

2263
01:20:42,470 --> 01:20:39,760
you know i didn't even know there was

2264
01:20:43,590 --> 01:20:42,480
going to be a bad bb-8 in the movie so

2265
01:20:44,630 --> 01:20:43,600
i didn't know the pores are going to be

2266
01:20:46,310 --> 01:20:44,640
a big party though i thought the poor

2267
01:20:48,709 --> 01:20:46,320
was going to be like mini ewoks and just

2268
01:20:49,750 --> 01:20:48,719
kind of be around so far

2269
01:20:50,550 --> 01:20:49,760
neither one of those things were ruined

2270
01:20:52,070 --> 01:20:50,560
for me

2271
01:20:53,910 --> 01:20:52,080
i guess it's neither here nor there i

2272
01:20:56,070 --> 01:20:53,920
thought i would just bring it up i also

2273
01:20:57,110 --> 01:20:56,080
like saying bb hate

2274
01:20:58,950 --> 01:20:57,120
important thing that did happen this

2275
01:21:01,669 --> 01:20:58,960
movie no one's face

2276
01:21:03,270 --> 01:21:01,679
was cgi and [\h__\h] up no no mustaches

2277
01:21:07,350 --> 01:21:03,280
were removed in the making of this movie

2278
01:21:08,950 --> 01:21:07,360
you have so much hate for that

2279
01:21:10,950 --> 01:21:08,960
because it's chris it's my favorite

2280
01:21:12,630 --> 01:21:10,960
character it's my favorite one and they

2281
01:21:14,070 --> 01:21:12,640
[\h__\h] his face and he was weird it was

2282
01:21:16,310 --> 01:21:14,080
bad i do have a lot of hate you have a

2283
01:21:18,229 --> 01:21:16,320
lot of hateful it was a shitty movie i

2284
01:21:20,229 --> 01:21:18,239
don't care if you [\h__\h] up a mediocre

2285
01:21:24,149 --> 01:21:20,239
character in a shitty movie superman is

2286
01:21:27,030 --> 01:21:25,350
i'm going to sit cross-legged i'm going

2287
01:21:28,390 --> 01:21:27,040
to sit cross-legged and float away and

2288
01:21:31,030 --> 01:21:28,400
be one with the force now we might be

2289
01:21:31,990 --> 01:21:31,040
hanging off point here no not at all i

2290
01:21:34,550 --> 01:21:32,000
love it

2291
01:21:37,270 --> 01:21:34,560
and again the fact that disney just

2292
01:21:40,709 --> 01:21:37,280
bought fox as well guys anything

2293
01:21:43,030 --> 01:21:40,719
anything is possible guys it's so bad

2294
01:21:44,950 --> 01:21:43,040
for like the world but so great if

2295
01:21:47,830 --> 01:21:44,960
you're a comic book fan

2296
01:21:49,110 --> 01:21:47,840
and for anyone listening to this episode

2297
01:21:51,990 --> 01:21:49,120
for sure

2298
01:21:54,229 --> 01:21:52,000
so guys i have to thank you for coming

2299
01:21:57,030 --> 01:21:54,239
on i guess any final thoughts final

2300
01:22:00,229 --> 01:21:57,040
reactions i loved it i loved the movie i

2301
01:22:02,229 --> 01:22:00,239
can't wait for what's next i assume you

2302
01:22:04,550 --> 01:22:02,239
both are going to go see whatever they

2303
01:22:07,350 --> 01:22:04,560
come up with next yeah i'll be at han

2304
01:22:10,149 --> 01:22:07,360
solo whenever they release it awesome

2305
01:22:11,990 --> 01:22:10,159
nick yeah no i loved it again you guys

2306
01:22:13,750 --> 01:22:12,000
thought like the i could see the issues

2307
01:22:15,350 --> 01:22:13,760
some people had but overall i was i was

2308
01:22:17,110 --> 01:22:15,360
like i told you i want to see it again

2309
01:22:18,310 --> 01:22:17,120
like the next day i looked at my wife

2310
01:22:19,830 --> 01:22:18,320
and i was like we're we need to figure

2311
01:22:21,910 --> 01:22:19,840
we need to get a babysitter and we need

2312
01:22:23,189 --> 01:22:21,920
to go and you see it and you see it now

2313
01:22:25,350 --> 01:22:23,199
because it's that great so wait what

2314
01:22:27,510 --> 01:22:25,360
movie we doing next guys oh that is a

2315
01:22:30,149 --> 01:22:27,520
great question is it is it black panther

2316
01:22:32,149 --> 01:22:30,159
is that the next biggie i think it is

2317
01:22:34,870 --> 01:22:32,159
yeah good for that we will definitely be

2318
01:22:37,669 --> 01:22:34,880
back for that maybe uh maybe disaster

2319
01:22:40,070 --> 01:22:37,679
artist no no it'll be black panther it

2320
01:22:42,310 --> 01:22:40,080
is going to be black panther yes there

2321
01:22:44,709 --> 01:22:42,320
you go so we got a little time for that

2322
01:22:45,669 --> 01:22:44,719
guys but uh before we go

2323
01:22:48,629 --> 01:22:45,679
again

2324
01:22:51,030 --> 01:22:48,639
we have your podcast coming up i know

2325
01:22:54,070 --> 01:22:51,040
you guys have recorded some episodes um

2326
01:22:56,390 --> 01:22:54,080
this is the two dumb dads podcast we are

2327
01:22:58,229 --> 01:22:56,400
going to play an exclusive clip for the

2328
01:22:59,189 --> 01:22:58,239
listeners right now so they get a taste

2329
01:23:01,430 --> 01:22:59,199
of it

2330
01:23:02,870 --> 01:23:01,440
like i said now that's not not a thing

2331
01:23:03,990 --> 01:23:02,880
that there's a lot of anymore that now

2332
01:23:05,669 --> 01:23:04,000
there's like all right there's no

2333
01:23:08,870 --> 01:23:05,679
definitive you will kill your kid by

2334
01:23:10,470 --> 01:23:08,880
doing this we're kind of figuring it out

2335
01:23:12,550 --> 01:23:10,480
going day by day

2336
01:23:15,189 --> 01:23:12,560
like i said my wife is

2337
01:23:17,830 --> 01:23:15,199
a preschool teacher a director of a

2338
01:23:18,830 --> 01:23:17,840
preschool slash daycare she

2339
01:23:21,830 --> 01:23:18,840
had

2340
01:23:25,189 --> 01:23:21,840
a sibling who's 10 years younger than

2341
01:23:26,870 --> 01:23:25,199
her she was in elementary education

2342
01:23:29,669 --> 01:23:26,880
she's trained to be a teacher i mean

2343
01:23:32,310 --> 01:23:29,679
she's been working in a preschool for 10

2344
01:23:35,189 --> 01:23:32,320
plus years at this point she went she's

2345
01:23:37,510 --> 01:23:35,199
a social worker um like if there's

2346
01:23:39,189 --> 01:23:37,520
anybody who is prepared to be a parent

2347
01:23:40,470 --> 01:23:39,199
it's my wife

2348
01:23:43,189 --> 01:23:40,480
and then there's me who was an only

2349
01:23:45,990 --> 01:23:43,199
child didn't like hated kids

2350
01:23:47,910 --> 01:23:46,000
everywhere and like i i'm the person on

2351
01:23:50,149 --> 01:23:47,920
the subway who sees somebody walk in

2352
01:23:51,750 --> 01:23:50,159
with a crying baby like oh son of a

2353
01:23:54,470 --> 01:23:51,760
[\h__\h]

2354
01:23:56,390 --> 01:23:54,480
yeah you are that guy yeah i i am like

2355
01:23:57,750 --> 01:23:56,400
the crabby ass are you still that guy

2356
01:23:59,910 --> 01:23:57,760
now that you have a kid though and you

2357
01:24:02,229 --> 01:23:59,920
know i am like the [\h__\h] sap now like

2358
01:24:04,070 --> 01:24:02,239
i i said that i scope out the people

2359
01:24:05,510 --> 01:24:04,080
with a uh with a cr

2360
01:24:08,470 --> 01:24:05,520
a stroller or something i'll sit right

2361
01:24:10,550 --> 01:24:08,480
across them i will stare into that that

2362
01:24:12,310 --> 01:24:10,560
stroller with like oh look how cute the

2363
01:24:13,830 --> 01:24:12,320
baby and just creep the [\h__\h] out of the

2364
01:24:15,030 --> 01:24:13,840
parents it's terrible it's crazy that

2365
01:24:16,070 --> 01:24:15,040
changes right like you go from like

2366
01:24:17,590 --> 01:24:16,080
being annoyed about little kids and

2367
01:24:19,030 --> 01:24:17,600
being like well no i get it i totally

2368
01:24:21,350 --> 01:24:19,040
get you know you're doing the best you

2369
01:24:22,950 --> 01:24:21,360
can do on the subway right now oh yeah

2370
01:24:24,470 --> 01:24:22,960
with you yeah and you look over at the

2371
01:24:25,830 --> 01:24:24,480
parents and they're like either one of

2372
01:24:27,590 --> 01:24:25,840
two things that's happening either they

2373
01:24:28,790 --> 01:24:27,600
they give you that look of like i'm

2374
01:24:31,030 --> 01:24:28,800
sorry and i just kind of like tell

2375
01:24:32,629 --> 01:24:31,040
myself i got you it's all good i got you

2376
01:24:34,149 --> 01:24:32,639
yeah or they look at you with disdain

2377
01:24:35,590 --> 01:24:34,159
like don't [\h__\h] look at me this is

2378
01:24:38,070 --> 01:24:35,600
your problem they're not looking at you

2379
01:24:41,830 --> 01:24:39,830
when when can we expect this guys i'm

2380
01:24:43,590 --> 01:24:41,840
getting really excited any any firm

2381
01:24:46,070 --> 01:24:43,600
dates yet yeah if you're listening to

2382
01:24:47,590 --> 01:24:46,080
this episode you can find us out there

2383
01:24:50,070 --> 01:24:47,600
in the world uh we should be able to

2384
01:24:51,510 --> 01:24:50,080
find this podcast hopefully on itunes we

2385
01:24:53,990 --> 01:24:51,520
still haven't been officially approved

2386
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yet but hopefully there and of course

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our website at uh in any rss catchers i

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believe our abs our current website is

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something along the lines of two dumb

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dads at

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libsyn.com or something like that or

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libsyn.com find us on facebook you can

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find that so the facebook page is fully

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up and running it's got some pictures

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it's got some fun stuff up there we'll

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link to this episode it's it's linked to

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somewhere in the skies and you'll find

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the audio episode launch up there's

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probably later this week i would say am

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i too far ahead on that chris moss i

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think you might be too far behind i

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think we should be up as soon as this

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podcast gets going that's very much

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random

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and it doesn't make us sound smart ryan

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oh yes that's the glory of editing right

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yeah

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again that is the two dumb dads podcast

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i cannot wait to hear this guys and i

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cannot wait to have you on again to talk

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movies i love that we're doing this i

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hope the listeners appreciate it and i

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hope they enjoyed star wars the last

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jedi so again guys thank you for joining

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um

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[Applause]

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[Music]

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no

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you must unlearn what you have learned

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why not